Interesting question. After an exhilarating weekend at CCDSA, I came back salivating over the challenge of training MYSELF and my dog for a Brevet. In listening to everyone discuss the "old" ring trials, and hearing the stories under the EZ up this weekend, I found myself longing to see one of these "old" trials imagining in my mind what reverence there must have been for the sport. It seemed to me that this French Ring sport was something to be cherished and held in high regard - and I find that very appealing. As Brad and I discussed your post, he made a comment that echoed my own sentiment, he said: "I would rather gain the knowledge of the traditional French Ring sport and FAIL at the trial, than hurry up and gain a title that I know I didn't earn." I couldn't agree more, I would rather be better because the sport FORCES me and my dog to rise to the occasion, than have the sport be easier for my own ego. So in short, do we value the title, the real title, and all that it implies? You bet we do.