Message modified by board administrator 10/7/2009, 8:14 pm
Your posting is somewhat clouded. I’m not certain what you are trying to say. It is easy to jump to the wrong conclusion without all the facts. Therefore, I did a little research.
The breeding you wish to repeat are from two von Stonehill dogs. The dam Shakti has OFA’d hips and Elbows, and the sire Spirit has OFA’d hips ONLY. Does this mean Spirit has bad elbows? I don’t know and will not speculate.
Curiosity caused me to search for all the von Stonehill records on the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals database. Of the 35 dogs listed, 8 are OFA’d hips AND elbows (22%), while 27 are OFA’d hips ONLY (77%). Does this mean 27 of the 35 dogs or 77% of those listed have bad elbows? I don’t know and will not speculate.
What I do know is that owners of three dogs from your previous Shakti/Spirit breeding state their dogs have medically certified hips and/or elbow problems. When reviewing the OFA records further, I see that your male “Spirit” comes from 2 von Stonehill dogs with OFA’d hips ONLY with 1 rated good and the other rated FAIR. Your female “Shakti” comes from 2 von Stonehill dogs with OFA’d hips ONLY and BOTH were rated FAIR. Does that mean that all 4 grandparents had bad elbows? I don’t know and will not speculate. It is clear though that 3 were OFA Fair on hips and only 1 was OFA good.
As a dog sport competitor of 27 years who has owned German Shepherds for 52 years, (6 of whom were competition dogs titled in multiple aspects at high-in-trial levels), I would not be interested in purchasing a puppy from this breeding. My opinion after reading these REAL facts does not matter however.
Everyone should make up their own mind. To read the REAL facts about the the Von Stonehill OFA Hips/Elbow Statistics, go to
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