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Posted by Craig Kornacki Help me understand something. There are two pitchers in the Colorado bullpen. Pitcher #1 has the following stats ERA HOLDS SV W WHIP K/9 K/B HR/9 BPV Check out the ERA and WHIPs for a Rockies pitcher!!! ERA HOLDS SV W WHIP Pitcher #2 is a left-hander who has always been a middle reliever in the majors. Now, I'm not saying that I know more than a major league manager. But, can we What I'm wondering is why hasn't pitcher #2 gotten at least one or two save Let's look at last year... Pitcher #1- did not close last year. He started. 2003 Stats- Pitcher #1 W L SV ERA WHIP K/9 K/BB HR/9 Pitcher #2- had a 67% S%, which is the rate of how many saves he converted successfully. 2003 Stats- Pitcher #2 W L SV ERA WHIP K/9 K/BB HR/9 These BPI's certainly seem closer-worthy. Yet, Pitcher #1 became the closer. Hmm... If we look at Ron's TOG rule for closers... Pitcher #1 has Talent, Opportunity, and Guile. Pitcher #2 has Talent, Has had little opportunity this year, and has Guile. In conclusion, because Pitcher #1 has 8 saves this year, the team has anointed him I guess I'm passionate about this topic. Plus, my fantasy team needs saves and I have Pitcher By the way, Pitcher #1 is Shawn Chacon and Pitcher #2 is Brian Fuentes. So Rockies fans, if Chacon fails, Fuentes is not such a bad option for saves. I look forward to hearing everyone's response.
on 5/11/2004, 11:06 am
To: Colorado Rockies fans and Ron Shandler
Pitcher #1 is a closer. Pitcher #2 is a middle reliever. Could Pitcher #2
be a closer? You make the call.
4.378 0 8 0 1.540
10.98 3.75 2.20 67
Pitcher #2 has the following stats
2.700 6 0 0 0.900
K/9 K/B HR/9 BPV
12.18 3.6 2.00 107
Pitcher #1 is a right-hander who failed as a starter.
Left-handers typically aren't closers. Notable exceptions: Billy Wagner, Eddie
Guardado, Arthur Rhodes...
agree that Pitcher #2 has a better ERA and WHIP than Pitcher #1?
Pitcher #1's ERA and WHIP are not as good as pitcher #2's in nearly the same amount
of innings- Pitcher #1 has 12.3 innings (season-to-date) and Pitcher #2 has 13.3
innings. However, Pitcher #1 has 8 saves. So, he's helped his cause with a dominant
K/9 rate and decent command, despite average ERA and WHIP.
opportunities? Does pitcher #2 not have the proper makeup to be a closer? Has he
failed in save situations?
6 11 0 5.27 1.46
6.2 1.4 1.5
He had an 84% Relief Efficiency rating which is simply (Wins + Saves + Holds)/
(Wins + Losses + SaveOpps + Holds). According to Ron, the minimum for effective
closers is 80%, which Pitcher #2 has.
4 4 4 2.76 1.30
9.8 2.4 0.8
the closer, and he is a right-hander, he is the team's closer. Pitcher #2 does
very well in his role as a lefty specialist. He has a phenonmenal WHIP and ERA for
Colorado and he is a pillar in the community. Just kidding. So, he will continue
in his role until Pitcher #1's role changes.
#2.
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