Posted by Patricia
on May 19, 2010, 8:49 pm, in reply to "Re: PPS numbers"
67.167.10.249
Thanks Scott. I have the full site but sometimes can't remember where info. is. So, I'll get that PPS number when I get myself over there and do - the various things. Not when I get my passport. Makes sense. 
--Previous Message--
: Here's part of the info from the Full Site,
: Moving Checklist section, After the Move
: page:
:
: Get a PPS Number The national social
: security and pension system in Ireland is
: known by its acronym - PRSI. While not
: exactly catchy, it's easier to pronounce
: than "Pay Related Social
: Insurance". In a nutshell, the title
: says it all: the more you pay into the
: system, the more you get out upon retirement
: or in the event of personal health or
: unemployment problems.
:
: If you want the full details, be sure to
: take a quick look at the online guide put up
: by the Department of Welfare. The first
: paragraphs are written in clear English, but
: it soon degenerates into pages of
: gobbledygook regarding levels of payment.
: That's because there are a gazillion
: benefits and conditions covered by the PRSI
: system from widows' pensions to occupational
: injuries and the booklet gives you the
: lowdown on all of them. And then it details
: which of these benefits you're entitled to
: based on what you've paid into the system.
:
: Worry not. The essential thing is that you
: will need a PPS number - Personal Public
: Service. If you want to work in Ireland,
: file taxes, collect child benefits, get a
: provisional car licence, or have any
: official interaction with the state, then
: you'll want to get on down to your nearest
: Employment Exchange and get yourself and
: your spouse and even your kids one of these
: essential collections of digits.
:
: Of course, in Ireland, it's never quite that
: simple. For one thing, finding the telephone
: number and location of your nearest
: Employment Exchange office is difficult.
: Your neighbours will probably know where it
: is, but the one sure way to find it is to
: pick up your local telephone directory. In
: the front of every phone book are the
: "Green Pages", a list of
: government departments and offices
: throughout Ireland. Find the green page
: listings for the Department of Social,
: Community and Family Affairs. There you'll
: see a county by county listing of all local
: Social Welfare offices. Call the nearest one
: and ask them where the local Employment
: Exchange office is located.
:
: The Department of Social and Family Affairs
: lists the documents you need to bring with
: you to establish Proof of ID
:
: PROOF OF ID - IRISH NATIONALS
:
: Long form of Birth Certificate
: and
: Valid photographic ID e.g. Current Valid
: Passport or Full driving licence, Employment
: ID Card etc.
: and
: Evidence of address
:
:
:
: PROOF OF ID - UK NATIONALS (may include
: residents of Northern Ireland)
:
: Current Valid Passport
: or
: Birth Certificate (long form preferred) and
: valid photographic ID e.g. Full Driving
: Licence, Employment ID (with photo)
: and
: Evidence of either work/claim/residency/Tax
: liability/education history in the UK or
: Northern Ireland
: and
: Evidence of address
:
: The Experience of S. - Keep Your Passport
: Current
:
: It makes a difference where you are coming
: from.
:
: According to the official website of the
: Dept of Social and Family Affairs, UK
: citizens are required to provide EITHER:
:
: 1. Proof of residence in Ireland AND a valid
: passport OR
: 2. Proof of residence, a birth certificate
: AND a photo ID.
:
: I had the following experience trying to
: help my friend from the UK get a PPS number.
: I printed out for her the rules listed above
: from their OFFICIAL website. During the
: process of me getting my PPS number they had
: given me a handout that reads as follows (I
: have abbreviated some words and corrected
: the grammar):
:
: The following documents are the ONLY
: documents which are accepted as proof of
: address for a PPSN Application
: • ESB Bill (Electricity Bill)
: • NTL Bill (Cable Bill)
: • Gas Bill
: • Home Telephone Bill
: All bills must be recent (In the last 2
: months)
: If the bill is not in your name you MUST
: ALSO bring a letter from the person named on
: the bill.
: • Lease Agreement (Between tenant and
: landlord)
: A contract between tenant and landlord given
: all relevant details about tenant and
: accommodation.
:
: However, from me they accepted my passport,
: a letter from my landlord and my letter of a
: job offer, which included my Dublin address.
:
: Since we lived in the same town my friend
: went to the same branch that I had gone to.
:
: Since her passport had expired she produced
: the second list of documents and was
: rejected. There were 2 officials working at
: the time and neither was quite sure what the
: rules were, but they still insisted that she
: needed valid passport. They had no interest
: in what their own website had to say.
:
: I suggested that my friend go to Dublin to
: the main branch and see someone who knew
: what they were doing. She did and was told
: that she MUST go back to the branch in the
: area where she lived. She went back hoping
: to run into someone different but was again
: rejected because her passport had expired.
:
: Since she could not get a PPS number she had
: to return to the UK. I recently heard from
: her that she is in the process of renewing
: her passport and will soon be returning to
: Ireland.
:
:
:
: PROOF OF ID - EEA citizens (EU NATIONALS -
: (other than UK) and citizens of Iceland,
: Norway and Liechtenstein) plus Switzerland
:
: Current Valid Passport or National Identity
: Card
: and
: Evidence of either birth /work /unemployment
: /residency /tax liability /education in an
: EU/EEA country or Switzerland
: and
: Evidence of address in Ireland
:
:
:
: PROOF OF ID - NON EEA NATIONALS
:
: Current Valid Passport or Certificate of
: Registration with the Department of Justice,
: Equality and Law Reform ( Green Book or
: Plastic Card)
: and
: Evidence of either birth /work*
: /unemployment /residency /tax liability
: /education in the relevant country. (*
: includes Work Permit or letter from the
: Dept. of Justice, Equality and Law Reform
: giving permission to work)
: and
: Evidence of address in Ireland
:
:
:
: The following must NOT be accepted as Proof
: of ID
:
: Short version of a Republic of Ireland Birth
: Certificate
: Provisional Driving Licence
: Baptismal Certificate
: Personal letters
: Photo-copies of certificates
: Savings accounts recently opened
:
:
:
: The following are acceptable documents
: showing address:
:
: Household Bill, Official letter/document,
: financial statement, property lease or
: tenancy agreement, verified employers
: letter. All documents must show the
: applicants name and address.
:
: About that utility bill: I called the local
: Social Welfare office and asked what
: constitutes utility bill proof. I was told
: that anything with your name and address on
: it works. They just want to see something
: proving that you're actually residing in
: Ireland. So, rapidly acquired documents like
: a TV licence and refuse collection bills
: will work if they have your name and
: address.
:
: P's Advice:
:
: You can use a TV-license as a proof of
: residency! Just go to the post office and
: pay your hundred something Euros and give
: them your name and address – no proof of
: name and address required!!! – and they will
: issue the TV-license which is good for your
: PPS application! So if you get a license on
: the name of Claus, Santa with the address of
: the Dail/Parliament in Dublin you have
: already one legal proof that you are Santa
: Claus and “affiliated” with the Irish
: government. If the rental/phone/utility is
: in your spouse's name it should be ok with a
: marriage certificate.
:
: These days the PPS/RSI number is generated
: immediately on computer and you walk out of
: the office with the number and paperwork in
: hand. If mailed, it generally takes 5 to 10
: days to arrive.
:
: Every semi-decent sized town in Ireland has
: a Social Welfare Office and an Employment
: Exchange, so you won't have far to go to set
: the ball in motion. And, most of the folks
: who work in these offices actually
: understand all the mumbo-jumbo. Have them
: explain the essentials to you. In straight
: English the essentials are this:
:
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: Scott or any Irish in the know person,
: when/how does one get a PPS number? I
: understand this is the end all for getting
: bank accounts etc etc. I have my papers
: ready to go for my Irish citizenship by
: naturalization (mom from Leitrim); will that
: give me a passport and a PPS no.? Thanks!
: Patricia
:
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