Posted by Robert
on 3/9/2009, 12:26:07, in reply to "Re: Lords and heirs and their titles"
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: The heirs of earls and above *all* have
: courtesy "Lord Smith" titles.
: Heirs to barons and viscounts are *only*
: "Honorable John Smith."
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: Not all heirs of earls and above. The
: holder of the earldom must hold a lower
: secondary title, if the heir wants to use a
: courtesy title. The heir to the Earl of
: Lincoln is therefor known as the Hon.
: William Roy Fiennes-Clinton.
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: Simon Winchester wrote a fun book called
: "Their Noble Lordships." Full of
: information and anecdotes. He describes how
: the older the primary title, the
: "lower" the courtesy title. For
: example, one especially ancient dukedom
: (Somerset, I think) has a mere baron as its
: heir's title, while more recent dukedoms go
: to marquesses.
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: Funny, but not accurate. It is true that the
: heir to the Somerset Dukedom is known as
: Lord Seymour. But still it is a question of
: what other titles the Peer holds. The
: Beaufort Dukedom is fairly old, and the heir
: is known as Marquess of Worcester.
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The seven most recently created Dukedoms all but one have an earldom as courtesytitle for the heir. The Dukedoms are Westminster, Fife, Gloucester, Kent, Edinburgh and York. The sevent Dukedom in the list is Windsor, which was created without any secondary title.