Are the kids getting worse? Behavior wise? Is it the phone? Is it the parenting? Is it covid?
I’ve got good admin and good teachers that try every day.
Our band students are still better than most of the school pop, but they try to bring it in the band hall too. And we’ve got good classroom management.
Just honestly trying to get a read around the rest of the state.
Re: The kids
Posted by Here on 3/6/2024, 9:11 am, in reply to "The kids"
The students I work with each day are much better behaved than when I was in school and even 18 years ago when I first started teaching. Also, has there ever been a time where "kids these days" WEREN'T worse behaved? Maybe they aren't actually getting worse, maybe we are?
Re: The kids
Posted by Okay... on 3/7/2024, 9:19 am, in reply to "Re: The kids"
Also, has there ever been a time where "kids these days" WEREN'T worse behaved?
Yes, there have been those times where *weren't* applied or applies. However if one objectively observes trends over the past 15-20 years, you will find that there are way more so-called "parents" not doing their jobs at home as opposed to the good actual parents whose kids are on the whole very well mannered and behaved.
As another poster mentioned, this nonsense starts at home. No consequences at the house, kid expects the same at school. When that doesn't happen, the so-called "parent" pitches a hissy fit.
Re: The kids
Posted by ovwrkdnundrpd on 3/5/2024, 10:41 am, in reply to "The kids"
Yes, I have taught for 28 years now and kids are much worse. I left a school that had good kids but no drive to win. Concerts were great and the community loved me but I wanted more. Now I have kids that don't care about anything. More money but they just don't care. They don't care about sports, (thats why we lose every game), electives or school in general. We, the band, still get good scores, but not what I was expecting. I am ready to retire.
Re: The kids
Posted by maybe its not? on 3/5/2024, 9:23 am, in reply to "The kids"
I have a hypothesis that we are trying to teach kids that are growing up in a world that is trying to force them to be analog.
NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE FUTURE!? WHO KNOWS LOL
Re: The kids
Posted by Respectfully on 3/5/2024, 7:32 am, in reply to "The kids"
Yes, behaviors are getting "worse" - in that what kids do nowadays would be considered completely out of line 5, 10, 15 years ago.
There are also behaviors that were common a generation ago that are virtually eliminated today.
Phones, parenting, covid, all are to blame. But IMO it's the fact that this generation of kids, middle school especially, had their formative "how to solve problems with others" years (ie, grades 3-5) disrupted by covid teaching and distance learning. They didn't learn conflict resolution, and were constantly exposed to the worst sorts of behaviors due to being on an iPad or Chromebook at home 8+ hours a day.
A generation ago, kids would come back from summer break and be a bit wild, but settle down. Now they have that "summer break" mentality all year long.
The solution? There isn't only one. Parents must be involved. Schools must change their expectations of behavior AND hold students and parents accountable. But none of that puts a bottom in a chair and gets funding, which is what most districts seem concerned about first, second, and third, these days.
Re: The kids
Posted by Not So Old Guy on 3/5/2024, 6:57 am, in reply to "The kids"
Grades 7-12...no problems whatsoever.
Grade 6...one of the most immature, undisciplined, rudest people I've ever come across. Even the COACHES don't want them in class/PE. Food fights at lunch, everyday.
This starts at the house...full stop. The only thing they have learned from their "parents" is that if they get caught doing something...as long as they say the "right words" there will be no repercussions. There is no change in the behavior: bad behavior, get caught, say "right words", "parent" lets them off the hook...wash-rinse-repeat.
Just the other day, three 6th graders were being reprimanded by one of the other teachers. The boys promptly snapped to attention, flew the "Nazi Salute", and said, "Sieg Heil, Faggot." Within 20 minutes, the parents were there explaining that their precious boys, "Didn't know what they were doing, and they're really sorry." Yeah, there's a common 4 letter word...and those parents are full of it.