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Posted by Kieran Frost on 5/18/2009, 2:36 am, in reply to "A superpowered "Sex and the City"..."
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This is exactly what happens when writers incorrectly try to make a comic aimed at capturing a female audience; it becomes nothing more than fluff and stereotypes. It is insulting to women; implying the extent of their interest in comics is romance and girl talk; and would NEVER get approved if it was for a male audience. Can you imagine someone pitching Ant Man II, Human Torch, Fixer and Iceman gather together to play a poker match, while recounting their hottest dates and worst hang-ups? They'll call it Dude, Where's My Superheroine Ho?. Lame! And yet clearly some Marvel writer thinks that dribble is what all female audiences want.

Which is exactly why Ms. Marvel should steer clear of this pitfall; and just remain a fabulous comic about the fabulous Ms. Marvel and her superhero adventures; and not try and make it a feminist statement.

P.S. WOW! The King in Yellow sounds really good (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_king_in_yellow). Gonna have to go find a copy!

--Previous Message--
: This is fluff in comic book form, nothing
: more and nothing less. The only
: "women's issues" that will be
: discussed will be superficial and
: stereotypical ones,nothing of substance or
: value. Not unlike the popular romantic
: novels of Robert W. Chambers of the early
: 20th century, that are no longer in print,
: but which made him very wealthy, though he
: shall always be remembered for his weird
: fiction, primarily THE KING IN YELLOW, which
: predates Ringu/Ring by nearly a century.
:
:
:

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How Important Is Feminism 2 Ms. Marvel? - Hyperion322 5/7/2009, 10:54 am
- Re: How Important Is Feminism 2 Ms. Marvel? - rawhidekid 7/1/2009, 1:33 pm
- Ms. Marvel fights for 'Justice FOR ALL' & stands against ALL forms of Evil - Cascadyan 5/13/2009, 9:48 pm
- Honestly, don't give a rat's @$$ >>> - DGTrixie 5/12/2009, 2:32 pm
  - 70's Idealism about This Woman, This Warrior... - vanhelsin 5/12/2009, 11:59 pm
    - again, Vanhelsin with the kindness of 1000 unicorns! LOL!!! nm - DGTrixie 5/13/2009, 1:31 pm
    - What's a Sham-wow? [nt] :) - Kieran Frost 5/13/2009, 9:07 am
      - Watch this video....... >>>> (msg) - DGTrixie 5/13/2009, 1:34 pm
        
        HA! Okay, now vanhelsin's earlier comment makes more sense... I LOVE IT! Thank-you DGTrixie [nt] - Kieran Frost 5/13/2009, 4:11 pm
        
        Re: HA! Okay, now vanhelsin's earlier comment makes more sense... I LOVE IT! Thank-you DGTrixie [nt] - tiffany outlet 7/12/2012, 5:32 am
        
        Re: HA! Okay, now vanhelsin's earlier comment makes more sense... I LOVE IT! Thank-you DGTrixie [nt] - christian louboutin exagona pu 8/14/2012, 10:17 pm
        
        You're welcome! : ) (nm) - DGTrixie 5/13/2009, 7:41 pm
- My thoughts... - Kieran Frost 5/7/2009, 11:46 am
  - Re: My response ... - Hyperion322 5/8/2009, 6:24 am
    - I would disagree - Kieran Frost 5/8/2009, 7:37 am
      - Re: Rebuttal - Hyperion322 5/9/2009, 12:39 am
        
        Re-Rebuttal :P [spoiler... maybe?] - Kieran Frost 5/9/2009, 11:57 am
        
        Re: Great response! - Hyperion322 5/11/2009, 7:34 pm
        
        Thank-you good sir. Grab a cup of tea, my rebuttle is long [EDIT: so long it needs two part :P] - Kieran Frost 5/12/2009, 10:34 am
        
        The struggles are far from over... - vanhelsin 5/12/2009, 7:16 pm
        
        I consider myself optimistic, rather than naive :P [SPOILERS] - Kieran Frost 5/13/2009, 9:01 am
        
        PART II - the reason why.... - Kieran Frost 5/12/2009, 10:34 am
        
        Re: Other women's POV of Ms. Marvel - Hyperion322 5/15/2009, 11:38 am
        
        What you are asking for is NOT equality! - Kieran Frost 5/15/2009, 3:16 pm
        
        Re: Dear Kieran - Hyperion322 5/15/2009, 8:57 pm
        
        Marvel Divas [SPOILERS] - Kieran Frost 5/17/2009, 6:09 am
        
        A superpowered "Sex and the City"... - vanhelsin 5/17/2009, 11:55 am
        
        Re: Fingers crossed there will be SOME depth *nt* - Hyperion322 5/19/2009, 8:06 pm
        
        I much prefer, "Ms. Marvel vs. The King In Yellow".... - vanhelsin 5/19/2009, 10:46 pm
        
        Exactly! - Kieran Frost 5/18/2009, 2:36 am
      - From Sue Storm to She-Hulk to Stripperella and everything in between! - vanhelsin 5/8/2009, 11:02 pm
        
        Don't forget "the Rape of Ms. Marvel" - Kieran Frost 5/9/2009, 12:10 pm
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--Previous Message-- : This is exactly what happens when writers : incorrectly try to make a comic aimed at : capturing a female audience; it becomes : nothing more than fluff and stereotypes. It : is insulting to women; implying the extent : of their interest in comics is romance and : girl talk; and would NEVER get approved if : it was for a male audience. Can you imagine : someone pitching Ant Man II, Human Torch, : Fixer and Iceman gather together to play a : poker match, while recounting their hottest : dates and worst hang-ups? They'll call it : Dude, Where's My Superheroine Ho? . Lame! : And yet clearly some Marvel writer thinks : that dribble is what all female audiences : want. : : Which is exactly why Ms. Marvel should : steer clear of this pitfall; and just remain : a fabulous comic about the fabulous Ms. : Marvel and her superhero adventures; and not : try and make it a feminist statement. : : P.S. WOW! The King in Yellow sounds : really good : (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_king_in_yellow). : Gonna have to go find a copy! : : --Previous Message-- : This is fluff in comic book form, nothing : more and nothing less. The only : "women's issues" that will be : discussed will be superficial and : stereotypical ones,nothing of substance or : value. Not unlike the popular romantic : novels of Robert W. Chambers of the early : 20th century, that are no longer in print, : but which made him very wealthy, though he : shall always be remembered for his weird : fiction, primarily THE KING IN YELLOW, which : predates Ringu/Ring by nearly a century. : : : : :

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