
Posted by Kieran Frost on 5/15/2009, 3:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Other women's POV of Ms. Marvel"
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Hype; I have to ask: did you read my posts? I keep trying to steer this back towards the comics, and I you keep bring in non-comic observations without referencing whether you agree or disagree with my previous posts. Did you agree or disagree with what I said about women in Marvel comics?
I repeat, this is how women in Marvel comics are portrayed right now, this year/last year:
- The Skrull Queen was behind all Secret Invasion
- Wasp was the back-up plan for the Skrulls if they failed.
- Emma is Queen of the Mutants
- Storm is Queen of Wakanda
- the Runaways are led by Sister Grimm
- a female Loki is right now the main villain for Mighty Avengers- the Thunderbolts are led by Black Widow [Yelena]
- the beacon of hope for the Thunderbolts is Songbird; who WILL return to get her team back!
- X-Factor is jam packed with female leads (Siryn, M, Layla Miller, Ruby)
- the majority of Young X-men's second arc focused on Dust and her character’s development
- the Scarlet Witch is still referenced more than almost anyone else I can think of; and the House of M story, of which she was the vital factor; STILL hold repercussions across ALL X-comics
- the New Mutants are Magik central
- The Lady Liberators are going after Red Hulk
- the Chief of H.A.M.M.A.R. is Victoria Hand
- the first major foe against the Dark Avengers was Morgan le Fay, who not only proved a worthy foe, but managed to bring down Ares, Venom and Sentry before she was defeated, by a joint effort of Ms. Marvel and Doctor Doom.
- Kate Bishop shares leadership of the Young Avengers with Patriot
- the new Young Masters of Evil are led by Enchantress
- Spiderwoman’s getting her own comic
- the X-men have been defeated by the Sisterhood, lead by Madelyn Prior
- Blink is back leading the Exiles
- the Leper Queen is one of the main foes in X-force
- Rogue is about to become the lead of X-men: Legacy
- the mutant messiah is a little girl named Hope
- the new Black Panther is a woman.
Does this not please you? Is this not equality in comics? What more could be done to show equality; not by lecturing, not by saying “oh women have had it so hard, oh the poor dears, let’s make all female superheroes feminists”; but by ACTIONS! Clearly Marvel has a very pro-equality stance towards females in comics nowadays; since they share the same spotlight in terms of significance in stories, in plots, in comics in general! I ask again: what on earth could Marvel do to make women equal in comics; that they haven’t already done?
In terms of your post; I have many thoughts about what you wrote; but since most of your post is talking about a situation I was not a part of, I can’t really comment on it. I think most of the post is pointless; and I don’t mean that in a rude way, but your argument is based on the views of five women who don’t even read comics. What credentials or experience do they have to dictate how a comic should be written? 51% of the world is female. Does that mean 51% of the world is better qualified to lecture Ms. Marvel’s male writer on how Karla should be portrayed? Or Carol?
That said, I did take great affront to the following:
1. It was unanimous of the six (all around my age, 24-27), that there should be a heroine who's shown at being better than the boys
2. Carol doesn't need powers to be a powerful woman, she stands strong even without powers and proves to be equal or better than any guy would in a situation where she's being grilled and tortured. We should see more of this.
This. Is. NOT. Equality. “better than the boys”/”better than any guy” is NOT equality. The moment you ever want Carol to be shown as a better superhero than her male counter-parts PURELY because she’s a woman, THAT IS NOT EQUALITY! To be frank, this doesn’t seem like you are on a quest for equality, so much as desire for superiority.
“Better than the boys”/”Better than any guy.” This reeks of hypocrisy.
Men are NOT better than women. Women are NOT better than men. THAT is equality. Period. You might want to hand a dictionary to your female friends, and have them look up the word "equality"; I hope they will be pleasantly surprised at what it says.
Enjoy the weekend as well, good sir. Sorry for my tone; it was written with passion, not malice. I assure you. I hope the weather stays as good for you where you are, as it does for me, this weekend.
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