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I would disagree

Posted by Kieran Frost on 5/8/2009, 7:37 am, in reply to "Re: My response ..."
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Firstly I should point out, I often consider myself an anti-feminist; so that does taint my view somewhat. But why does the book have to be ABOUT her being "independent, in control, sexy, beautiful, outspoken, powerful, etc, etc, ect..."? She already is! Why make it "about" that? Is Wolverine about him beingly strong, in control, free thinking, independant, tough, macho, thigh slapping? Of course not, why? Because that we be incredibly tedious to read [side note: I don't read it anyway, but I CERTAINLY wouldn't if they did that ]

By making one of the only female solo-comics a "woman's issue" or "girl power parade" would totally destroys the point of what feminism should stand for! Surely it shouldn't matter that she's a woman? She is first and foremost a superhero. Why not make the comic about that, rather than ladden un-necessary observations that the reader already sees. We know she's a woman, it's pretty obvious (in fact her costume leaves little to the imagination in that regard). We know she's strong. We KNOW she's intelligent (Dr. Soften, anyone?).

And I agree that the character was originally created for the feminist uprising. But times have changed. A LOT of change. Why can't Ms. Marvel evolve, and be a superhero, regardless of gender? Surely that would be the best "message" to convey? That it doesn't matter, and therefore we won't spend any time focusing on it?

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How Important Is Feminism 2 Ms. Marvel? - Hyperion322 5/7/2009, 10:54 am
- Re: How Important Is Feminism 2 Ms. Marvel? - rawhidekid 7/1/2009, 1:33 pm
- Ms. Marvel fights for 'Justice FOR ALL' & stands against ALL forms of Evil - Cascadyan 5/13/2009, 9:48 pm
- Honestly, don't give a rat's @$$ >>> - DGTrixie 5/12/2009, 2:32 pm
  - 70's Idealism about This Woman, This Warrior... - vanhelsin 5/12/2009, 11:59 pm
    - again, Vanhelsin with the kindness of 1000 unicorns! LOL!!! nm - DGTrixie 5/13/2009, 1:31 pm
    - What's a Sham-wow? [nt] :) - Kieran Frost 5/13/2009, 9:07 am
      - Watch this video....... >>>> (msg) - DGTrixie 5/13/2009, 1:34 pm
        
        HA! Okay, now vanhelsin's earlier comment makes more sense... I LOVE IT! Thank-you DGTrixie [nt] - Kieran Frost 5/13/2009, 4:11 pm
        
        You're welcome! : ) (nm) - DGTrixie 5/13/2009, 7:41 pm
- My thoughts... - Kieran Frost 5/7/2009, 11:46 am
  - Re: My response ... - Hyperion322 5/8/2009, 6:24 am
    - I would disagree - Kieran Frost 5/8/2009, 7:37 am
      - Re: Rebuttal - Hyperion322 5/9/2009, 12:39 am
        
        Re-Rebuttal :P [spoiler... maybe?] - Kieran Frost 5/9/2009, 11:57 am
        
        Re: Great response! - Hyperion322 5/11/2009, 7:34 pm
        
        Thank-you good sir. Grab a cup of tea, my rebuttle is long [EDIT: so long it needs two part :P] - Kieran Frost 5/12/2009, 10:34 am
        
        The struggles are far from over... - vanhelsin 5/12/2009, 7:16 pm
        
        I consider myself optimistic, rather than naive :P [SPOILERS] - Kieran Frost 5/13/2009, 9:01 am
        
        PART II - the reason why.... - Kieran Frost 5/12/2009, 10:34 am
        
        Re: Other women's POV of Ms. Marvel - Hyperion322 5/15/2009, 11:38 am
        
        What you are asking for is NOT equality! - Kieran Frost 5/15/2009, 3:16 pm
        
        Re: Dear Kieran - Hyperion322 5/15/2009, 8:57 pm
        
        Marvel Divas [SPOILERS] - Kieran Frost 5/17/2009, 6:09 am
        
        A superpowered "Sex and the City"... - vanhelsin 5/17/2009, 11:55 am
        
        Re: Fingers crossed there will be SOME depth *nt* - Hyperion322 5/19/2009, 8:06 pm
        
        I much prefer, "Ms. Marvel vs. The King In Yellow".... - vanhelsin 5/19/2009, 10:46 pm
        
        Exactly! - Kieran Frost 5/18/2009, 2:36 am
      - From Sue Storm to She-Hulk to Stripperella and everything in between! - vanhelsin 5/8/2009, 11:02 pm
        
        Don't forget "the Rape of Ms. Marvel" - Kieran Frost 5/9/2009, 12:10 pm
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--Previous Message-- : Firstly I should point out, I often consider : myself an anti-feminist; so that does taint : my view somewhat. But why does the book : have to be ABOUT her being : "independent, in control, sexy, : beautiful, outspoken, powerful, etc, etc, : ect..."? She already is! Why make it : "about" that? Is Wolverine about : him beingly strong, in control, free : thinking, independant, tough, macho, thigh : slapping? Of course not, why? Because that : we be incredibly tedious to read [side note: : I don't read it anyway, but I CERTAINLY : wouldn't if they did that ] : : By making one of the only female : solo-comics a "woman's issue" or : "girl power parade" would totally : destroys the point of what feminism should : stand for! Surely it shouldn't matter that : she's a woman? She is first and foremost a : superhero. Why not make the comic about : that, rather than ladden un-necessary : observations that the reader already sees. : We know she's a woman, it's pretty obvious : (in fact her costume leaves little to the : imagination in that regard). We know she's : strong. We KNOW she's intelligent (Dr. : Soften, anyone?). : : And I agree that the character was : originally created for the feminist : uprising. But times have changed. A LOT of : change. Why can't Ms. Marvel evolve, and be : a superhero, regardless of gender? Surely : that would be the best "message" : to convey? That it doesn't matter, and : therefore we won't spend any time focusing : on it? :

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