both what - men??
The tiny bits of Scripture you refer to have a context that they are pulled out from - please go back and read the whole context if you want to discover your own opinion superimposed over those bits. It could not get clearer that shown by the fact that some Jews that Jesus spoke to wanted to stone Him to death for "blasphemy" because He "made Himself out to be God." I think those Jews understood the language far better that English people do these days - Either Jesus claimed to be God to those Jews, or else those Jews did not understand a word He said to them.
So to answer the question above, Jesus is both God and man. And if you have trouble understanding one God who showed Himself to be three "persons" (for want of a better word), join the rest of us -- I expect God to so transcend our ability to understand Him that such inability to understand Him just builds on my faith in Him.
But your post presents a good start - try proving that Jesus' claim to be God to those Jews was a faulty claim - if you want to continue arguing against what was obviously believed by the very first Cristians -- ie those of us today who believe that Jesus is still God and man could not gain such an understanding today unless those first Christians wrote it in the New Testament. I went the same route that you seem to be on, and with all my best arguments crumbling in dust in my mouth, I rather suddenly found myself arguing for what Scripture says in John 1:1-2 alone,
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Now try to explain how the Word "was God" as well as was "with God" And then John 1:14 tells us that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us - oh, God became man and lived with us on this planet - imagine that. And certainly while He was here as a man, having emptied Himself the Father was greater than He. And before He was to die on the cross He asked His father to restore the glory He had before He came here as a man.
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