I'll check my downloads off VIA to see if I have a PDF copy that will post on this board - the text of that article should not be lost to the American taxpayer just because VIA got old and retired a year ago.
Yes -- here it is (without the picures though);
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Another type of church building (Business) shows up on the Internet
Submitted by adminteam  on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 16:39
Pecan Grove Senior Residence and other similar 2x2 Residences.
Let us be very clear on this point. VIA has no problems with such accommodations for senior 2x2 Workers. In fact we applaud the efforts to provide them services that they need and if those efforts cost plenty to provide, let the wealthy among the 2x2s do the providing to as comfortably accommodate their aged Workers as possible.
Most churches do the same for their aged members, including their aged preachers.
But the 2x2 “gospel” clearly does not allow such accommodations of its aged Workers. The 2x2 “gospel” requires that Workers be homeless. And that part of their “gospel” which supposedly is their “only way to heaven” has been preached by even its aged Workers right from the beginnings of 2x2ism in 1897. So it seems that the 2x2 “gospel” has as BIG problem with Senior HOMES for those aged 2x2 Workers.
Also, it has not been common for 2x2 Workers to contribute a dime towards Social Security systems during their years of 2x2 “Ministry.” Yet we are informed that those Workers who now have homes in Pecan Grove (and other such 2x2 Senior Residences) who can satisfy applications that show an inability to afford the rent for those homes get it paid for them by Social Security systems. So it would seem that the 2x2 “gospel” also allows what looks like fraud.
VIA’s staff have no difficulties with 2x2 Workers being taken care of in their needs of old age – it is the 2x2 “gospel” that is contravened by such homes for 2x2 Workers, not our gospel of the death of Christ for all human sins, His burial and His resurrection. (1 Cor. 15)
And as long as 2x2s preach their “gospel” and then, with historical ease, violate their “gospel” VIA has Biblical instructions to expose their deeds of darkness as per .Ephesians 5:
8For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
In modern English (NET Bible)
5:8 for you were at one time darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of the light – 5:9 for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness,
righteousness, and truth – 5:10 trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but rather expose
them. 5:12 For the things they do in secret are shameful even to mention. 5:13 But all things being exposed by the light are made evident. 5:14 For
everything made evident is light, and for this reason it says:
“Awake, O sleeper!
Rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you!”
5:15 Therefore be very careful how you live – not as unwise but as wise, 5:16 taking advantage of every opportunity, because the days are evil.
Pecan Grove Senior Residence
(Pecan Grove, 929 Hwy. 150, New Waverly, TX 77358)
(EDITED August 15, 2012 -
very good question added - see comment below, Jan. 21, 2013)
EDITED version – with thanks to our trusted source (who has asked that his/her words not be posted on VIA) on August 14, VIA received Primary Evidenvce regarding the Pecan Grove Senior Residence. And since we cannot ignore much better information than was previously available to us, we present the following edits to our former presentation given here in our own wording.
1. Pecan Grove Senior Residence is part of a privately owned legitimate Business named, “KNewman Holdings.”
Here is a link for an online profile of that company.
2. The funding of the construction of the Senior Residence came from the owner of that Business.
3. Voluntary labor from professing members of the 2x2 church during the earlier developments of the Senior Residence was depended upon by that Business, but is no longer the case.
4. Each resident pays rent and for any who cannot afford that rent, it is paid by the state of Texas Medicaid. (see comment below)
5. The present manager of the Senior Residence is a qualified nurse.
6. Some of the other buildings on the property are also rented.
7. The present staff of the Senior Residence are paid staff.
8. Of course, the Pecan farm buildings (barns etc.) contain Pecan farming equipment and have nothing to do with the Pecan Grove Senior Residence, while evidently part of the same or a separate Business on the property.
9. Our source has continued to deny that Resident Frank Porter possessed more than a suitcase on arrival at Pecan Grove Senior Residence. And our source has provided to us very good evidence that such is the truth. Therefore our article is modified to delete a former workers' evident derogatory gossip
online against Frank Porter.
Unfortunately we have come across this same problem with derogating gossip spread by 2x2 Workers against even professing members AND each other right through the history of the 2x2 church - and we have unfortunately been caught in repeating their derogating gossip one against the other more than
For as long as these blogs are left open to public viewing after we post this information on VIA, you can see a lot of pictures of 2x2s associated with this new church building. It is located in Texas – here is a quotation to that effect, which relates to the ten residents being increased to 12 by modifications to two of the larger apartments to make them into two bedroom suites – “Assisted Living License with the State of Texas allows us to have up to 14.”
For a few photos of a new farm house that is located 300 yards from the Senior Residence and is occupied by “Hoffman’s” and is where meetings occur; and the ten residents of the Senior Residence and their names see our gallery at;
There are two basic possibilities with this facility. It is either a company or it is a church facility.
Information provided by “knewman” on the blogs states that the Pecan Grove Senior Residence has a State license for “Assisted Living” for up to 14 residents. So if the facility is a company, it is a licensed company in the State of Texas. Yet I have been unable to find any business listing on a Pecan Grove Senior Residence in Texas in the area of Lake Conroe.
Early postings by “knewman” dated in 2008 describe a purchase of the Pecan farm. On the 101 acre farm and two 17 acre lots (later including another ten acres) he describes plans to build a home for his parents, another home for his sister and her husband, and the Senior “Center.” And he indicates that the properties are a Pecan farm to be operated as a Pecan farm. But he indicates that his family did not know how to graft Pecans and learned how to graft Pecan trees from a neighboring farm some 30 miles away. So this would indicate that the main purpose for land purchase by the “Newman clan” would likely not be to farm Pecans. And that leaves some indication that the main purpose was a “clan” commun(ity) with a Senior Residence included, with the side-line business of farming Pecans, the trees of which were present. Now included in our gallery are two more newly found images – one a map of the properties showing plans for location of buildings and the other a floor plan for the Senior Residence.
Now if the Pecan Grove Senior Residence is a family owned and operated business, that would naturally include employing qualified senior care staff. It appears that all of the staff of the Residence are 2x2s, which does not mean they are not qualified senior care employees. Knewman tells of a former “manager” (evidently a 2x2), and pictures several others he calls “staff.” And this all fits into a normal business operation.
However, since 2x2 Workers claim to have no salary, are housed, fed, clothed and transported by church members (laity) free of charge and receive money as free will offerings from “the faithful” only, they will have no income from which to pay for lodgings in a Senior Residence. And that means that if the Pecan Grove Senior Residence is a business, the fees for services it provides to only aged 2x2 Workers must be provided to those Workers out of those free will offerings from laity. And that makes it a church function. And if the Pecan Grove Senior Residence is itself a free will offering to aged 2x2 clergy (only) then it is STILL a church function with the addition that the Residence is a church building.
Evidently the contractor who was to build at least one of the houses on the property is also a 2x2. And with the apparent employment of all 2x2s, this begins to take on an appearance of a ‘church’ operation. But a company employing only 2x2s would certainly not have to be a church operation – it just begins to look like one from that evidence.
Pictured are two other 2x2s, employed in washing the Residence windows. These are said to be “visitors,” and many other “visitors” are also mentioned at the Residence. And if the “visitors” were doing work for the Residence without wages, then their donated time is as much a free will offering to a church as any cash donations would be.
Also indicated in blog postings knewman mentions that 2x2 Workers have held “gospel meetings” in the Senior Residence. This is clearly a church function that if no rent for the facility was involved, it moves the facility even closer to a church operation.
The reader of this information is left to decide for self as to whether to view the Pecan Grove Semior Residence in Texas as a church building or otherwise, but from our past experience with 2x2 conventions being a church operation that includes church funding of buildings on the various properties, we are of the opinion that the Pecan Grove Senior Residence housing and caring for only aged 2x2 Workers is as much a church building as those “machine sheds” constructed on 2x2 convention sites with church funds.
With some extensive Internet research we found some photos of the Pecan Grove Senior Residence during its construction in 2008. There are some property photos of an apparent pre-Newman house being constructed on the property that were posted on July 8, 2008. And the construction photos of the Senior Residence were posted on November 23, 2008. This page of photos was not easily found through Google, so I place the link to it below for the reader’s convenience;
Some of these construction photos will join the other images in our Gallery as they are the only overall outside pictures that we have found so far – still with no dependable address or location of the church facility. But these photos were also posted on the Internet by the same “knewman” who posted the more recent photos.
Along the right side on the blog at the above link are a whole series of post dates and related photos as the church facilities were in progress. It seems that the first post is dated April 29, 2008.
More necessary reading to research the blogs for any confirmation of some of our reasonable speculations in the above information. Here are some of the appropriate related confirmations in the words of knewman. I have bold highlighted those portions that confirm what we have already speculated above.
“We’ve had a lot of volunteer help this month, allowing the regular staff to get to conventions. We’re sure glad for all the help. Things are just getting back to normal with the staff schedule and we’re looking forward to having the workers return.” (October 28, 2009)
“The pecan harvest hasn’t gone well. A drought in the summer ruined part of the crop. Then we had hundreds of crows who proved to be a lot smarter than we are. They cleaned out the first type of pecans (called Pawnees) to come in. After that loss we got “poppers” which use propane to make a sound like a shotgun at regular intervals. These seem to have kept the crows away. But the squirrels and deer ignore them. There are some more pecans to be harvested, mainly “Desirables”. We hope to harvest them on Saturday. Even then, we’ll have far less pecans than last year, which was a disaster because of hurricane Ike! Oh well… we didn’t buy the farm for pecans anyway! (October 28, 2009)
“Our manager, Linda Ronhaar, had ankle surgery, and now rides around in a wheel chair. Her two employees, Lounell and Cindy don’t seem to mind.” (December 20, 2009)
“Keith Ramsden was back for a visit, with his wife Gail. Keith helped us at PG for a few months last year.” (February 21, 2010)
“Many of these folks were at our meeting at PG Sunday Feb 14th. Here’s a picture of the meeting.” (February 21, 2010)
“We’re in the process of getting an assisted living license with the State of Texas. Part of the many requirements is that anyone working with food preparation must wear a hairnet. “ (August18, 2010)
“Kathy and I took a brief trip to West Texas, and enjoyed a visit with Jack and Mae Nelson, shown here in their Ford Model A. Jack helped a lot with the building of Pecan Grove. (September 28, 2010)
“We’ve had a busy month with conventions and visits. In the middle of it all the State of Texas decided to pull a suprise inspection. We passed, and now Pecan Grove has an Assisted Living license.” (September 28, 2010)
“Unfortunately, Linda has decided she needs to retire for health reasons. We’re really going to miss her! My sister, Ronda Rosamond, who lives here on the farm, is taking over as the manager.” (December 29, 2010)
“Lyle Schober visited us today at PG and told us some very encouraging things. We’re glad to have him in Texas.” (i.e., the 2x2 Overseer of Texas knows of the Pecan Grove church building) (January 2011)
“It’s very dry here! A lot of Texas is on fire. We’re fortunate in that respect, no fires around here, but we’re not fertilizing pecan trees this spring, it’s too dry. We irrigate from the lake, but that’s not sufficient for nearly 1,000 pecan trees. We’ve planted flowers, and as long as they’re watered, they do ok. Here’s a recent work group working on the rose garden and some of the flowers.” (May 3, 2011)
“We’ve continued to have a lot of visitors in May. Our good friends, Dominique and Mireille Mille, who currently live in New Caledonia (some French islands near New Zealand), were here for a visit. This first picture shows them with Frank while Leona (my mom) is cutting his hair. The second shows them with some of the PG residents, staff and volunteers.” (June 3, 2011)
I suppose with regard to the quotations given above, for the benefit of any 2x2 readers who may not know much about the same church membership volunteer labor at such church properties as Youth Camps, Senior Residences and even the Sanctuaries are all a regular church practice. I am NOT intending to be critical of those practices in ANY church including the 2x2 church.
What I am intending to pointing out is that those other churches do not pretend and/or preach that they have no church buildings like the 2x2 church has done historically and continues to do -- in spite of the contrary evidence that they have placed on the Internet themselves. In simple terms, those other churches do not preach lies or twist the meanings of ordinary words into crafty half truths in order to try to deny what is obvious.
Finally I have located the Pecan Grove Senior Residence in satellite images on Google Maps in a manner that gives the perspective of its location in relation to Lake Conroe and the surrounding towns. I will add four Google map images in the Pecan Grove Senior Residence gallery . First I give the over all image including Lake Conroe , then the other three images move in until the Senior Residence is clearly seen at 100 feet. The Property . The farm house and barns  at 100 feet. The Senior Residence at 100 feet 
And lastly (at this time) in our research, knewman mentions that Pecan Grove Senior Residence is the same type of building as another at Redbud Canyon. He also mentions some 2x2s visiting Pecan Grove from Redbud Canyon. So, I’ll try to locate a satellite image of such a building in Redbud Canyon because the information may indicate other similar and pre-existing 2x2 Senior Residences – i.e., perhaps such church buildings are common knowledge within 2x2ism these days, but not well known outside of 2x2ism (yet). Such church facilities operated by 2x2s of obvious wealth may have become a new form of 2x2 Convention properties, where remaining 2x2 Workers of secret substantial means may find hidden living quarters of their own (similar to other cult "compounds") as 2x2ism dwindles due to growing public knowledge of its historical infamous deeds - especially in North America. If I succeed in locating such a building in Redbud Canyon I will post a satellite image of it in the Pecan Grove Senior Residence gallery.
Unfortunately, on Google maps the only “Redbud Canyon” in Texas is “Redbud, Canyon Lake, Comal, Texas 78133 .” And that leaves one to speculate as to whether that is the “Redbud Canyon” mentioned by knewman. But I will post that Google image nonetheless.
For now, until I might come across better information, this research project is at an end after about a week of it.
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