Posted by Odon S. on July 20, 2008, 2:04 pm, in reply to "Groupspeak"
Hello my dear friend Mr. Dowdy.
As you know, I am not a member of the 2X2, by a conscious choice I made by checking them out first.
I can tell you this, that they made it perfectly clear that I would only be welcomed if I 'humble myself' and be 'submissive to the spirit of truth' (they define the 'truth' by what they have been taught and NOT what the Bible teaches.) that I can never do.
As for you being accused of being bitter, I too belonged to a 'cult' very similar to this one, and I too have family in that sect and many, many friends who I grew up with. So your last statement; "Certainly from my own perspective the cult influence is the single most negative factor upon my interfamilial relationships with the professing members of my family and I find that to be perhaps the saddest commentary of all with respect to this cult" is a shared feeling (that I could never have put so nicely as you have).
But why waste our precious time and words of love with those that reject the truth? Why not use these posts to invite all to come into the 'Ark' that has been started by other believers before us?
So how about starting a fellowship among us, especially for those who still feel the pain of separation from the family of believers (that we were taught that they were true to the scriptures), and whom we loved and miss dearly?
All of us who would rather 'die' then follow lies!
The time is nearing the END. I for one have heard the 'call' that the 'bridegroom is coming', so if you have too, come join me chisel into this 'rock foundation' and with the help of God, build our house on it.
Luke 12:54-56
Then He also said to the multitudes, "Whenever you see a cloud rising out of the west, immediately you say, 'A shower is coming'; and so it is. 55 And when you see the south wind blow, you say, 'There will be hot weather'; and there is. 56 Hypocrites! You can discern the face of the sky and of the earth, but how is it you do not discern this time?
NKJV
Mark 8:34, Mark 10:29-30
This invitation is for you and everyone who is willing to join us. (NOT follow us, or some crazy scheme, but just join together and walk together admonishing, correcting, and teaching each other with what gift the Spirit has given each of us.)
We can start by e-mail, on the internet, and with prayer we can let the whole world know who we are and what we stand for. Just as Noah started to build the ark, was obvious to all the people of the world, our intention to follow the 'truth' will become obvious to all too.
We could use a lawyer who is spiritually minded to put together a 'building plan' from that which is revealed to us from God in the scriptures. Listen to all those (no matter who you are) who can contribute to this project, put it all together and start building. The time is extremely short, so how about it?
Maybe we can reach those we love the most, our families? But if not, so be it. It is only those that have 'entered the Ark' that were saved at Noah’s time. No one will be forced in, or kept in by some devious (monetary) reason, but will come in on their own will, drawn by ‘believing’ that there is a terrible day coming on this world (like the flood with Noah).
Luke 17:26-30
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
Those whose hearts are broken, those who feel deep in their souls that a storm is coming, e-mail me with your thoughts and suggestions. What do you say friends?
My e-mail is:
ariandgabe@yahoo.com
Rom 8:31-35
What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
NKJV
In Jesus name: Odon
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Annual Meetings Printed 4/11/2008
November 2007
17-18 Rodrigues ..................... Mauritius
24-25 Praslin Island ................Seychelles
December 2007
8-10 Nairobi ........................... Kenya
March 2008
7-9 Guam ............................ Guam
13-16 Cape #1 ................... South Africa
14-16 Okhandja ...................... Namibia
15-16 Agusan ...................... Philippines
15-16 Bohol ........................ Philippines
15-16 Bukidnon .................... Philippines
15-16 Iloilo ........................ Philippines
15-16 Saipan .......................... Saipan
20-23 Bloemfontein ............... South Africa
20-23 Cape #2 ................... South Africa
21-23 San Juan .................... Philippines
21-23 South Leyte ................. Philippines
22-23 Bayog ....................... Philippines
22-23 Davao ....................... Philippines
22-23 Ilocos ....................... Philippines
22-23 Lal-lo ........................ Philippines
27-30 East London................ South Africa
27-30 Port Elizabeth .............. South Africa
28-30 Dumingag ................... Philippines
29-30 Baguio ...................... Philippines
29-30 Cauayan .................... Philippines
29-30 Cotabato .................... Philippines
29-30 Mindoro ..................... Philippines
29-30 North Leyte ................. Philippines
April 2008
3-6 Durban ..................... South Africa
3-6 Pretoria #1................. South Africa
4-6 Ozamis ...................... Philippines
4-6 Rosales...................... Philippines
5-6 Cebu ........................ Philippines
5-6 Zambales ................... Philippines
10-13 Cavite ....................... Philippines
10-13 Pretoria #2................. South Africa
11-13 Ixopo (Zulu) ............... South Africa
15-16 Pretoria (Workers) ......... South Africa
18-20 Hokkaido ......................... Japan
18-20 Okinawa ......................... Japan
18-20 Fenglin .......................... Taiwan
18-20 Ilan ............................. Taiwan
18-21 Pretoria #3................. South Africa
24-27 Tokyo ............................ Japan
25-27 Hiroshima ........................ Japan
25-27 Pretoria Zulu ............... South Africa
25-27 Laiyi ............................. Taiwan
26-28 Fianarantsoa ............... Madagascar
May 2008
1-4 Osaka ............................ Japan
1-4 Antananarivo #1 ........... Madagascar
1-4 Casa Grande, AZ ................... USA
1-4 Buttonwillow #1, CA ............... USA
2-4 Wulai ............................ Taiwan
3-6 Staffordshire ................... England
3-6 Dunbartonshire #1............ Scotland
8-11 Seoul #1 ....................... S Korea
8-11 Wando ......................... S Korea
8-11 Buttonwillow #2, CA ............... USA
8-11 Santee, CA ......................... USA
9-12 Antananarivo #2 ........... Madagascar
10-13 Hambühren, Niedersachen .... Germany
10-13 Dunbartonshire #2............ Scotland
15-18 Jinhae #1 ...................... S Korea
15-18 Seoul #2 ....................... S Korea
15-18 Mountain Ranch #1, CA ........... USA
17-20 Somerset ....................... England
22-25 Dettingen, Württemberg ...... Germany
22-25 Jinhae #2 ...................... S Korea
22-25 Joo-am ......................... S Korea
22-25 Juneau, AK ......................... USA
22-25 Mountain Ranch #2, CA ........... USA
24-27 Lancashire ..................... England
24-27 Oxfordshire #1, Oxon. ......... England
29-6/1 Bonners Ferry, ID .................. USA
29-6/1 Chelan, WA ......................... USA
29-6/1 Walla Walla, WA .................... USA
31-6/3 Oxfordshire #2, Oxon. .........England
31-6/3 Cumbria ....................... Scotland
June 2008
5-8 Dunnville, ON .................. Canada
5-8 Seagrave, ON .................. Canada
5-8 Hotchkiss, CO ...................... USA
5-8 Post Falls, ID ....................... USA
5-8 Ronan, MT.......................... USA
5-8 Antioch, NE ......................... USA
12-15 Iron Bridge, ON ................ Canada
12-15 Richmond, QC .................. Canada
12-15 Parma, ID .......................... USA
12-15 Dagmar, MT ........................ USA
12-15 Riverton, UT ........................ USA
12-15 Chugwater, WY ..................... USA
13-15 Faroe Islands ................. Denmark
14-17 Cork .............................Ireland
14-17 Monaghan .......................Ireland
19-22 Woodstock, NB ................. Canada
19-22 Kegums........................... Latvia
19-22 Elizabeth #1, CO ................... USA
19-22 Devon, MT.......................... USA
19-22 Hermosa, SD ....................... USA
19-22 Cody, WY ........................... USA
21-24 Fermanagh ......................Ireland
21-24 Laois .............................Ireland
26-29 Mellowdale, AB ................. Canada
26-29 Napan, NB ...................... Canada
26-29 Smeaton, SK ................... Canada
26-29 Wisla ............................ Poland
26-29 Wasilla, AK ......................... USA
26-29 Elizabeth #2, CO ................... USA
26-29 Manhattan, MT ..................... USA
28-7/1 Antrim ...........................Ireland
28-7/1 Down ............................Ireland
July 2008
3-6 Greenshields, AB ............... Canada
3-6 Hythe, AB ...................... Canada
3-6 Prince George, BC .............. Canada
3-6 Ellershouse, NS ................. Canada
3-6 Emo, ON........................ Canada
3-6 Strathroy, ON .................. Canada
3-6 Vaasa ........................... Finland
4-6 Lisboa ......................... Portugal
10-13 Didsbury #1, AB ................ Canada
10-13 Salmon Arm, BC ................ Canada
10-13 Bowsman, MB .................. Canada
10-13 Almonte, ON ................... Canada
10-13 Theodore, SK ................... Canada
10-13 Stokke .......................... Norway
10-13 Mountainair #1, NM ................ USA
11-13 Langenfeld, Rheinland........ Germany
11-13 Hula ................ Papua New Guinea
12 Stratford, PE.................... Canada
12-15 Villigen ..................... Switzerland
17-20 Didsbury #2, AB ................ Canada
17-20 Portage La Prairie, MB .......... Canada
17-20 St. George's, NL ................ Canada
17-20 Aylesbury, SK................... Canada
17-20 Stockholm ...................... Sweden
17-20 Mountainair #2, NM ................ USA
18-20 Werda, Sachsen .............. Germany
19-20 Madang (Siar) ...... Papua New Guinea
19-21 Lillois ........................... Belgium
19-22 Donneloye .................. Switzerland
24-27 Brigus, NL ...................... Canada
24-27 Sønder Omme ................ Denmark
24-27 Putten #1 ................. Netherlands
24-27 Happy, TX .......................... USA
25-27 Otterbach, Pfalz .............. Germany
26-27 Wewak (Mushu Is) Papua New Guinea
26-29 Wahlendorf ................. Switzerland
27 Limbé ........................ Cameroon
31-8/3 Duncan, BC ..................... Canada
31-8/3 Glen Valley #1, BC ............. Canada
31-8/3 Putten #2 .................. Netherlands
31-8/3 Milford, NH ........................ USA
August 2008
1-3 Crete ............................ Greece
1-3 Honiara ............... Solomon Islands
2-4 Carema ............................ Italy
2-5 Chaintréauville .................. France
3 Monrovia ......................... Liberia
7-10 Glen Valley #2, BC .............. Canada
7-10 Athens/Inoi ..................... Greece
7-10 Seneca, IL ......................... USA
7-10 Freedom, NY ....................... USA
7-10 Quakertown, PA ................... USA
7-10 Milltown #1, WA ................... USA
7-10 Olympia #1, WA ................... USA
8-10 Rohozná ................ Czech Republic
8-10 Harare (Eng.) ................ Zimbabwe
8-11 Barcelona ......................... Spain
9-11 Petacciato .......................... Italy
10 Abidjan .....................Ivory Coast
14-17 Accra ............................. Ghana
14-17 Romania #1 .................. Romania
14-17 Shoals, IN .......................... USA
14-17 Altamont, NY ...................... USA
14-17 Yellow Springs, OH ................ USA
14-17 Saginaw #1, OR ................... USA
14-17 Downings, VA ...................... USA
14-17 Milltown #2, WA ................... USA
14-17 Olympia #2, WA ................... USA
15-17 Harare (Shona) .............. Zimbabwe
16-19 Madrid ............................ Spain
21-24 Kazakhstan #1 .............. Kazakhstan
21-24 Brownstown, IL .................... USA
21-24 Salvisa, KY ......................... USA
21-24 Vanderbilt, MI ..................... USA
21-24 Sharon, OH ........................ USA
21-24 Boring #1, OR ..................... USA
21-24 Saginaw #2, OR ................... USA
21-24 Newry, PA ......................... USA
22-24 Wien (Vienna) .................. Austria
22-24 Serima (Shona) .............. Zimbabwe
22-25 Romania #2 .................. Romania
23-24 Parakou ........................... Bénin
23-24 Agua Dulce, Veracruz ........... México
23-24 Baguida ........................... Togo
24 Cd. Juárez, Chihuahua .......... México
24 Torreón, Coahuila ............... México
28-31 Gbetagbo ......................... Bénin
28-31 Malcom, IA......................... USA
28-31 Mt Sterling, IL ..................... USA
28-31 McCordsville, IN ................... USA
28-31 Carsonville, MI ..................... USA
28-31 Boring #2, OR ..................... USA
28-31 Pulaski, VA ......................... USA
29-31 Kazakhstan #2 .............. Kazakhstan
29-31 Garangwe (Shona) ........... Zimbabwe
30-31 Cd. Meoqui, Chihuahua ......... México
31 Cd. Acuña, Coahuila ............ México
31 San Luis Potosí, SLP ............ México
September 2008
4-7 Rogers, AR ......................... USA
4-7 Madisonville, KY ................... USA
4-7 Alma, MI ........................... USA
4-7 Denton, NC ........................ USA
4-7 York, NE ........................... USA
5-7 Lagos ........................... Nigeria
5-7 Luwingu (Bemba) ............... Zambia
7 Jáuregui (Especial), NL ......... México
9 Jáuregui (Workers), NL ........ México
11-14 Boyden, IA ......................... USA
11-14 Marysville, KS ...................... USA
11-14 Hector, MN......................... USA
11-14 Clever, MO ......................... USA
11-14 Cassatt, SC ........................ USA
11-14 Wisconsin Dells, WI ................ USA
12-14 Jáuregui, Nuevo León........... México
12-14 Monterrey, Nuevo León ......... México
17 Cd. del Maíz, SLP ............... México