Re: A good few years for the Warriors
Posted by Bryan D on 4/6/2008, 5:24 am, in reply to "A good few years for the Warriors"
Nice thought out post...
But I disagree with some of your thoughts.
First, I think the New Warriors coverage has been great in Initiative, where characters are still on track.
But IMO the New New Warriors book is mixed. Its not a book thats gonna last im afraid.
Bandit was always a loser in my opinion. I found the notion of his existence cheesy and forced to start, and he also had an enormously bad 90s appearence. I always hated him, and I DONT like that he is the new NT, frankly i thought it would have been cooler if it was midnights' fire.
This New Warriors book wasnt built for fans of the old books..so in that way , along with the skottie young debacle it is a slap in the face to the old warriors fans. This book also seems slow and dragging. Now that said, as a fan of the old books I like the new series...as long as you understand its just NOT warriors stuff.Its somthing new and different, yet in some ways only average.
: I have to admit, I seriously considered
: dumping Marvel when I first got wind of
: their plans to do a superhuman civil war.
: Then, when I heard that they were going to
: kill the New Warriors to kick it off, I was
: even more intent on doing so.
: Then, I read Civil War. And, despite its
: problems, I rather liked it.
: But, to my surprise, I absolutely LOVE the
: attention to detail they're giving the
: Warriors in its aftermath:
: Aegis (Trey Jason Rollins): He disappeared
: after Volume II, and we next saw him in the
: X-Factor tie-in to Civil War, where he was
: on the run from SHIELD “cape-killer” troops.
: Bandit (Donyell Taylor): All he ever wanted
: was the life he felt fate had denied him, a
: life he thought his half-brother Dwayne had
: stolen. In another instance of great
: character development, he finally has
: everything he wanted ... he's taken Dwayne's
: life as his own. The Taylor name, the Taylor
: Foundation, his own personal fortune and his
: half-brother’s home --- it's all his now.
: And did anyone else catch the wedding band
: on his finger?
: Bolt (Christopher Bradley): I have to admit,
: I like the way Marvel brought him into the
: Weapon X series. When he discovered his
: mentor, Maverick, had been killed by the
: Weapon X program, he had Cable and Domino
: train him so that he could become Maverick
: II and avenge his mentor. As the new
: Maverick, he was later killed by Weapon X’s
: star hitman, Weapon Zero --- who was
: secretly the original Maverick! Oh, the
: Dagger (Tandy Bowen): Hasn’t been seen
: since the Civil War, but I keep hearing Joe
: Quesada lamenting that he has yet to see the
: perfect “Cloak & Dagger” pitch.
: Hopefully, someone will find it in time to
: add it to the current Warriors boom.
: Darkhawk (Christopher Powell): I don’t read
: Loners, but, from what I’ve heard,
: Darkhawk’s been undergoing some problems. I
: LOVE it when writers put characters through
: hell, but ONLY if the purpose is to
: strengthen the character. I just may pick up
: Loners just to see what’s going on.
: Debrii (Deborah Fields): Introduced during
: the Warrior’s third volume, she vanished
: until Civil War. We’re seeing little bits of
: her in the Initiative; hopefully, we’ll see
: some character development soon.
: Firestar (Angelica Jones): A key player in
: the first volume of the Warriors, and later
: in the Avengers, I was sorry to see Angelica
: quit the superhero gig. I would LOVE to see
: how her decision has affected her life. On
: the other hand, according to the X-Men
: books, mutants are automatically registered.
: So perhaps we’ll be seeing her as part of
: the Initiative…
: Hindsight (Carlton LaFroyge): The former
: Hindsight Lad became a valued member of the
: Warriors in their first volume. Then, he was
: ignored in the second and third volumes.
: Given his history, his shocking return in
: the She-Hulk tie-in to Civil War made
: perfect sense in its context, and moved the
: story of the team and its legacy forward.
: And his scorched earth campaign against the
: team, DestroyAllWarriors.com, was brilliant.
: Justice (Vance Astrovik): A mainstay of the
: original team, and a good solid player in
: the Avengers, it’s great to see him working
: with the Initiative as a counselor. I’m
: curious where they’re going to take Vance,
: because he does NOT like Gauntlet. He seems
: more sure of himself than we’ve seen in
: years. I can’t wait to see how they develop
: his character.
: Kymaera (Namorita Prentiss): Yes, she’s
: dead, but her death led to Namor’s current
: difficulties in his miniseries! And her
: mother’s not too happy with humanity either,
: as shown in The Incredible Hulk tie-ins to
: World War Hulk!
: Microbe (Zachary Smith Jr.): Well, his death
: has been confirmed, which is a pity. I
: think, with a bit more development, he could
: have been interesting. As it is, his
: character was merely tragic in all that lost
: Night Thrasher (Dwayne Michael Taylor): Who
: IS the Night Thrasher currently leading the
: New Warriors? Could Dwayne have survived
: Stamford? What is the connection between
: Thrash and King T’Challa of Wakanda? Is it
: Dwayne in the armor, or is he behind the
: scenes, pulling the strings? I love a good
: Nova (Richard Rider): I was mad when I heard
: that Nova would miss out on Civil War. Then
: I found out about Annihilation. Now, we’ve
: got a new ongoing series, and a sequel to
: Annihilation! And let’s face it: This new
: ongoing is better than Nova’s had in years!
: Rage (Elvin Daryl Haliday): I like seeing
: Elvin in the Initiative. It should be
: interesting to see how his anger over losing
: Dwayne (and the Warriors’ name being
: tainted) is handled over the long term.
: Also, I love the characterization! Rage and
: Justice go at it, and they reveal something
: that I'd nearly forgotten --- although they
: were both members of the Warriors, they
: never really served TOGETHER. After all,
: Vance was in jail when Elvin joined, and
: Elvin left the team shortly after Vance was
: released. Attention to details like that is
: why I’m still with this new, revitalized
: Scarlet Spider (Benjamin Reilly): This
: clone of Peter Parker died just after the
: end of the Warriors’ first volume, but his
: name is still around, as shown in the covert
: ops team featured in Avengers, the
: Silhouette (Silhouette Chord): That ring on
: Bandit’s finger has me wondering if Sil
: married him. I hope not. Still, it was great
: seeing her in Civil War and the Iron Man
: tie-in. Also, Silhouette is rumored to be
: showing up soon, possibly in New Warriors!
: Slapstick (Stephen Harmon): I’d been
: wondering when he joined the Warriors.
: Having assumed that it occurred, but wasn’t
: shown, between volumes one and two or two
: and three. But it turns out that, along with
: the Warriors, fought someone called Doctor
: Yesterday in 1994’s Marvel Comics Presents
: #159-163. So, perhaps he did join the team
: later, and we just never saw it? In any
: event, Civil War and the Initiative have
: brought this loony-tunes-type psychopath out
: to play.
: Speedball (Robert Justin Baldwin): They've
: put Robbie Baldwin through a meat-grinder,
: all but ensuring that, whoever he is when he
: comes out of it, he'll be a MUCH stronger
: character. AND, as Penance, he's got his own
: limited series, as well as being a
: Thunderbolts regular.
: Timeslip (Rina Patel): Not seen on panel
: since the Civil War, she WAS on the cover to
: Avengers: The Initiative #1, giving rise to
: speculation that she might show up in that
: Turbo I (Michiko “Mickey” Musashi ) and
: Turbo II (Michael Brent Jeffries): Jeffries’
: death is still spurring Mickey on in her
: drive to be a hero. And Mickey is a main
: character in the Loners, which will
: (hopefully) get an ongoing series someday
: UltraGirl (Susannah “Susie” Sherman): Her
: character is finally be used, having
: re-appeared in She-Hulk, Civil War, and now
: the Initiative. And as an added bonus, she
: and Vance have apparently given in to the
: attraction they felt WAAAAAAY back in the
: UltraGirl limited series (which happened
: between Warriors volumes 1 and 2).
: Zero-G (Alexander Power): The former
: Powerhouse is rumored to be appearing soon
: in The Initiative. Hopefully, we might also
: find out what’s been going on with Power
: Pack in continuity, even while Alex’s sister
: is busy with the Loners.
: So, what do you other Warriors fans think?
: Has Marvel been good to us in recent years?