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Re: who Longstrike was SPOILERS for issue 5

Posted by RonnieThunderbolts on 10/11/2007, 8:00 pm, in reply to "Re: who Longstrike was SPOILERS for issue 5"
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Why? I know for a fact that Marvel has used internet sources before. When Paul Smith drew the She-Hulk issue of Civil War he put Vance Astro in a combination of costumes that he'd never worn until then, but that I had drawn and put on the internet over a year beforehand. It is his current look, the costume he wears in Avengers: the Initiative, and it combines the george perez Justice costume with the Mark Bagley Marvel Boy costume as he drew it only towards the end of his run on the New Warriors. I know Jeff Parker, who said he and his editor were talking about my picture of the Agents of Atlas and Ed Brubaker said that he would use my pictures as a reference for the MODOC Squad when they were to be drawn by Mike Perkins. I'm just pointing out that in the current state of the world, comics are small, and the internet is huge. The internet is a way that fans can influence things in a huge way. I'm sure that someone typed in Vance Astrovik into Google image search and saw my picture of him as Justice, fourth one in, and gave it to Paul Smith as a reference. It is a weird fluke, but I doubt that Kevin Grevioux put those into Wikipedia, or anyone else at Marvel, before hand. They dropped the names like they were hints in the issue this week, the same way they mentioned Jono and Angel last month. In fact, Kevin Greivoux has said more than once that he wa told which characters to use. You could be right, that is totally possible, but it seems to me that Wikipedia was a likely source for an editorial assistant to get the info. The handbooks are written by the guys who run uncannyxmen.net and comixfan, and the Marvel Appendix, these are fans, and they have done the research. Then something like Wikipedia comes around and is centralized and contains minutia and some things that the well researched and thorough handbook writers do, and some they don't, but it is also easily manipulated. The Incredible Hulk bio was totally messed up for a couple of months, check the history. Why would Kevin Grevioux or anyone at Marvel cite the X-Men: The Last Stand Novel? I think it may have been an earnest mistake where the novelization's versions' details were added to the main Marvel Universe entries. I may end up checking it out from the Library to see if the details are there. Honestly, it isn't a big deal, but I don't think that anyone at Marvel is adding information that Tatoo and Radian were siblings who both discovered their powers at the same time in Church, not before it was mentioned in the comic, it just seems like a weird thing to put on Wikipedia six months before a book comes out is all. --Previous Message-- : In that case, I think it's more likely the : Wiki information was added either by Kevin : Grevioux, or by someone else at Marvel, in : advance of it being used in a comic. : : Flank : : --Previous Message-- : They've never appeared in any official : handbook listings though. And all of their : comic appearance are with out real names. : The whole "Christian Cood" : sibling, and Redneck's real name thing MAY : have come from the X-Men Last Stand novel, : but I've got all the handbooks, and the : UncannyXMen.net write ups have them listed : as unrevealed names, and every source that : I've seen EXCEPT for wiki, and a couple of : wiki sites like marveldatabase including the : sibling relationship and still not including : the real names. : : But no, this had to have come from wiki, : because there was no other source. : : : --Previous Message-- : It's possible that they got names in one of : the Official Handbooks too. But yeah -- : Lord how I hate Wikipedia misinformation. : : Thanks for the info. Poor Tattoo. : : -Jeph! : : : --Previous Message-- : She was Tattoo, Christine Cood, a member of : the Xavier Institute student body who had : become a member of Quentin Quire's Omega : Gang during the riot at Xavier's. She was : under the influence of the evil force called : Sublime while high on Kick a drug that : enhances a Mutant's abilities tenfold, and : also allowed the sentient force called : Sublime to control individual's actions. : : Tattoo, Redneck, and Tattoo's brother, : Radian (Christian Cood), were all placed : under arrest. They went to human jail, and : then served out terms working for : humanitarian organizations and charities in : third world countries afterwards, according : to Wolverine's 'sentencing.' This is : possibly where they became connected to the : Warriors, perhaps working for the Taylor : Foundation while helping out with third : world charities. : : Either way, we've learned for sure that : Longstrike was Tattoo, and we can infer that : Radian is Phaser. : : Some have extended this to meaning that : Redneck, the third of the trio to be jailed : and to lose their powers is Skybolt. : : An important thing to note though about this : revelation and what it means... to : Wikipedia... : : In addition to calling Longstrike both : Christine and Tattoo, the issue also has : Phaser called Christian. Given that the same : source of their being siblings (Wikipedia) : also had Radian named Christian Cood, I : think we know a couple of things. One, : Longstrike and Phaser are indeed Tattoo and : Radian. Two, Wikipedia added their being : siblings and Radian's real name to : continuity, as these were NEVER facets of : their character to appear in the comics. It : MAY have been from the X-Men: the Last Stand : Novel adaptation, by Chris Claremont, but : I'm not sure, I've not read it. It is the : only source for their Wikipedia entries that : I've not read and recently checked : thoroughly as well. I too have spread : support for the theory, and it is apparently : true, but having looked at it, Wiki has now : served the function of either making up a : character's real name and making two : characters related, OR bringing in out of : continuity stuff from a movie novelization : into continuity. Either way, score one for : Wiki misinformation. : : : -Jared : : --Previous Message-- : She has a brother, presumably both of them : used to have mutant powers, and her name was : Christine. Was she anybody we should : recognize from somewhere else? : : -Jeph! : : : : : : : : :

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Message Thread So who was Longstrike? - Jeph! 10/7/2007, 1:15 pm Re: who Longstrike was SPOILERS for issue 5 - RonnieThunderbolts 10/9/2007, 3:21 pm Re: who Longstrike was SPOILERS for issue 5 - Jeph! 10/9/2007, 8:41 pm Re: who Longstrike was SPOILERS for issue 5 - RonnieThunderbolts 10/10/2007, 12:14 pm Re: who Longstrike was SPOILERS for issue 5 - Flank McLargehuge 10/11/2007, 12:47 am Re: who Longstrike was SPOILERS for issue 5 - RonnieThunderbolts 10/11/2007, 8:00 pm « Back to index

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