Posted by Darren --Previous Message--
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on 11/16/2006, 7:31 pm, in reply to "Re: New Warriors in Civil War (Possible Spoilers)"
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I hope so.
: Yeah, Rage, Silhouette and Debrii, I can see
: joining the Secret Avengers. Rage and Sil,
: exactly for the reasons you discussed, plus
: two more: Sil was always a more private
: person, and Rage's grandmother was kiulled
: because his identity ended up being known to
: the wrong people.
:
: Firestar: Since she's always been portrayed
: as one of the more grounded members of the
: Warriors, it actually doesn't surprise me
: that she, seeing how running afoul of the
: SRA could ruin her life, would decide to
: retire. As you point out, though, whether
: she'll be able to STAY retired is a whole
: different story. After all, there's been at
: least one occasion when she went to aid
: someone in trouble without a disguise...
:
: Justice: Actually, this is the only point on
: which you and I part ways, Star Thief. Once
: upon a time, I might have said that Vance,
: blinded by hero worship, would have followed
: Captain America onto the Secret Avengers
: simply because it was led by his idol. But
: Vance has matured a great deal since then,
: and he wouldn't just follow Cap out of a
: knee-jerk sense of loyalty any longer. Vance
: does what he thinks is right. Also,
: remember, he is trying to, in a way, embody
: the spirit of justice --- an ephemeral
: concept that doesn't always go hand in hand
: with the law.
:
: Had those pushing the SRA not actually
: imprisoned those failing to register, then I
: could see Vance staying on the sidelines.
: But once that line was crossed ---
: dissenters being jailed for expressing their
: opinion --- then, no, I don't believe Vance
: would have stayed off the firing line.
:
: Also, don't forget, Vance, in another
: reality (New Warriors Vol. I #11-13), was
: part of an illegal rebel group. So, it's not
: without precedent that he'd go against the
: law to do what he thought was right.
:
: And that's not even including his alternate
: future-self, Vance Astro, a member of the
: rebel group that became the Guardians of the
: Galaxy.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Not to comment on Civil War as a whole, but
: I'm not sure if every Warrior's role in
: event makes sense.
:
: Rage: I can see him siding with Captain
: America, since Rage is probably more
: concerned with street level crime, much like
: Luke Cage.
:
: Silhouette: See Above
:
: Speedball: I like what they've done with
: Speedball so far, since he's been placed in
: an interesting position that shows his
: ideals and examines his character.
:
: My biggest contentions:
: Firestar: Would Angelica just quit? Yes,
: she's a female Peter Parker that's more
: interested in having a normal life than
: being a superheroine, and she's never had
: the greatest motivation for being a
: superheroine. She joined the Warriors
: because Thrasher asked her, and she joined
: the Avengers because of Vance. I understand
: that she would probably put the costume
: aside since the risk might not seem worth it
: at the moment, but I can't help but think
: that Angel would still become Firestar if
: the need arose (and she probably will). I
: think I doubt the idea that she would
: actually talk to a reporter and so that the
: world would know that Firestar was quitting,
: since Angel was always one of the more
: private characters in comics. Plus, she's
: already defactor registered because of her
: mutant status and likely unmasked to the
: public thanks to Carlton, so it can be
: argued that she will be a target regardless.
:
: Justice: I'm not convinced that the New
: Warriors' original boyscout would be so
: willing to go against the law given his
: history. I can see Vance disagreeing with
: Registration and openly opposing it, but I
: can't see him going underground to run
: around with Cap's group. The Warriors, at
: their heart, were always about the shades of
: gray, and I think some of their characters,
: especially Justice, wouldn't be so quick to
: side with either stance. Vance in
: particular knows the dangers of superhuman
: powers, so I think he would definately be
: somewhat sympathetic to the Registration
: side and he could probably make one of the
: stronger arguments for that stance. It was
: also shown that when he was a prisoner in
: the Vault, Vance believed in working within
: the system to correct the system. On the
: other hand, especially because of his
: ethnicity, I can understand that Vance would
: be very critical of Registration. But I
: can't see him running around with an
: underground group, even if it's led by
: Captain America.
:
: So, not to comment on how Marvel has handled
: the Registration issue, but what do folks
: think of the Warriors involvement so far?
:
: Star Thief
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