Sabal minor finally pic. posted!
Posted by Fred SC on January 6, 2018, 8:58 am
After three tries it finally posted to this board. This is my largest minor. I have 4 of them. This is the only one planted in good ground where it can successfully grow. IT has grown fairly slow. I grew it from seed germinated about 5 or 6 years ago. IT is not much of a palm at this stage but I just wanted to put up something other than weather, LOL. These seeds I gathered on Horse Island near my home I used to own in Beaufort County, SC.
Re: Sabal minor finally pic. posted!
Posted by Terry SE KY Harlan Co. on January 6, 2018, 9:43 am, in reply to "Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
So it takes about 5 years from germination to this size? Isn't this the slowest growing of all hardy palms? I guess that is not too bad of a start from seed. Is this what it currently looks like after/during the deep freeze? If so, looks great!
5 pics from here
Posted by Rob North Tennessee on January 6, 2018, 9:53 am, in reply to "Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
To help keep photos up front instead of the crappy weather, here are some crappy pics instead. Below is my first and last attempt to grow Sabal sp. Brazora. Growing left of a Tennessee ditch yucca trying to recover after its second bad winter. The third winter took it out. (only mulched) Below is a Sabal sp. Birmingham that Tony sent me in 2000 just before releasing it for sale at PDN. It lived for 14 years before vortex 1 took it out. I did not own that property at the time of its demise. This was likely taken a couple of years after I moved. It was planted from a 4" cup. It proved to be faster growing than I expected. To this day, property owner will not clear out dead banana fronds. Below are some sabal minors that have naturalized from mother plants almost 60 years ago from the estate of Mr. Charles Cole in Quebeck, Tennessee about 35 miles SSW of me. scatter those seeds friend - leave a legacy Here is my only grown sabal minor originating from those Tennessee minors , although a small seedling planted over 15 years ago it is a seed producer and growing on the north side of my house in the yard. I will be on the hunt for cold hardy daisyliron and sotol this year. Better than sagos since you dont have to dig them up if planted correctly and protected from abundant winter rain.
Posted by Greg H. Harrodsburg Ky on January 6, 2018, 10:41 am, in reply to "Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
Thats a nice sabal minor Fred and looks real healthy.
Posted by Fred SC on January 6, 2018, 11:47 am, in reply to "Re: Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
These are growing rather slowly. Partially due to my poor soil here I think. I had 5 degrees a few years ago for one night and it did not phase them. This time is a first for so many days with lows below freezing and highs barely out of the thirties, but so far they all look normal.
Re: 5 pics from here
Posted by Fred SC on January 6, 2018, 12:11 pm, in reply to "5 pics from here"
DAsylirion wheeleri get very large and grow very fast. They are beautiful but get out of hand quickly unless you give them about 4 or 5 feet on all sides. I dug mine out because it was dominating the entire bed. I will post a reminder. You have seen this picture but to let you see the size. All the Dasylirion species are beautiful. D. leiophyllum is about the prettiest and smaller of the species I think. I got mine about 10 years ago in NM near Truth or Consequences NM growing up thru a crack in the concrete on an exit rap. I stopped, pulled it up, and viola this is what it became..The pictures I show are from 2015. IT got much larger before took it out. In first picture I removed the large Agaves and Dasylirion a well. NM. on a driving trip to California. IT was just a baby growing out of a crack on an exit ramp near Truth or Cnsequences.
Posted by Fred SC on January 6, 2018, 12:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
Thanks Greg. Hre is a picture of my SAbal minors at my old place. I had a hedgelike affair going along my walk. They can get quite large. So allow about 4 or 5 feet for spread. I did not so I imagine that the new owners are now having to cut off a few fronds off the walk.
Posted by David VA on January 6, 2018, 12:17 pm, in reply to "Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
That's a good example of how much a Sabal minor can grow in 5 or 6 years, especially in a more amiable climate. It probably would not be that big if attempted here. That's a nice specimen. Was that photo taken recently?
Posted by Rob North Tennessee on January 6, 2018, 1:02 pm, in reply to "Re: 5 pics from here"
Awesome story my friend. I love that name, Truth or Consequences NM jaja. Wish me luck as I try Daisylirons and Sotols again. I would think San Antonio or Houston would be the closest places to look.
Posted by Tom in PA on January 6, 2018, 2:04 pm, in reply to "Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
Nice Fred! Love seeing this on a cold January day!
Posted by Fred SC on January 6, 2018, 2:07 pm, in reply to "Re: 5 pics from here"
SAn Antonio for sure. IF I had a lot of room I would grow more otols as well. D. Wheeleri, if you do plant it, make sure you do not have weeds under it or you can hardly remove. The sharp spines along the leaves curve backward and if you reach in it will grab you, believe me, I know from experience. Thy will tear you up worse than an rose bush!
Posted by Fred SC on January 6, 2018, 2:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
Posted by Fred SC on January 6, 2018, 2:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
YEp, sunny and cold here with temp of 29 as I type! IT did not get as war today as predicted. I doubt we will reach a high of 32.
Posted by Alvin in Motown, z6 on January 6, 2018, 2:10 pm, in reply to "Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
Awesome minor, Fred. Is that a permanent mulch at the base? I see how some have naturally acidic soil, with all the oak leaves around all of the time. Since oak leaves decompose slower than other leaf types, they contribute more to soil acidity. Various soil bacteria and fungi give off various acids, in their waste, as they break down organic matter.
Posted by Kevin midTN on January 6, 2018, 7:19 pm, in reply to "Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
Pictures don't always do justice Fred. How tall is that tallest frond? I've had some nice ones over the years. In my opinion, they grow fairly fast if watered a good bit during summer. Of course summer heat helps too. Kevin midTN
Posted by Fred Sc on January 6, 2018, 7:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
probably 2.5 feet maybe. Look at the post I posted under Gred harrodsburg post and see some nice minors.
Posted by Fred Sc on January 6, 2018, 7:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Sabal minor finally pic. posted!"
no, Alvin that is just fall leaves left un blown.
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