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Persea yunnanensis

Posted by Brian in Bremerton WA <iframe src='http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Brian+in+Bremerton+WA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 4/15/2018, 10:57 pm

This tree is basically an Asian Avacodo tree(non edible). It might work back east. Here it's volunteering wherever it's grown.

Re: Persea yunnanensis

Posted by George in Bandon Oregon <iframe src='http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=George+in+Bandon+Oregon' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 4/16/2018, 11:25 am, in reply to "Persea yunnanensis"

very nice tree. might looks about the same shape though it's only about 10' tall. FWIW, think the current "correct" name for the trees growing in Washington is p. bracteata. there are many species of persea most of which are small fruited and several are great ornamentals like "your" plant and for that matter p. thunbergii which also does well in the PNW (and the s.e.) even produces viable seed.

the upper southern oregon coast
USDA zone 9a (Sunset zone 5)
DRY cool summers and WET cool winters
grow eucalyptus, banksias, telopeas, grevilleas, bottlebrush, mexican pines and oaks

Re: Persea yunnanensis

Posted by Stan Hayward CA <iframe src='http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Stan+Hayward+CA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 4/16/2018, 12:32 pm, in reply to "Persea yunnanensis"

Nice look. It does have that Asian plant look.

Re: Persea yunnanensis

Posted by Jim Wilmington DE 7a <iframe src='http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Jim+Wilmington+DE+7a' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 4/17/2018, 12:39 pm, in reply to "Persea yunnanensis"

Pretty tree.

Is there a hardiness zone rating?

Jim, Wilmington, DE, 7a
Last 30 Years Avg. Winter Low: 7.50F
Last 20 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.35F
Last 10 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.40F
Favorite Palms: Species: Phoenix Canariensis / Genus: Sabal

Hardiness

Posted by Brian in Bremerton WA <iframe src='http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Brian+in+Bremerton+WA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 4/17/2018, 7:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Persea yunnanensis"

Hi Jim. As far as I know, this tree is Zone 8a or 8b. In saying that, the only time I've seen it have freeze damage was in 1990.

That was the coldest winter on record here, and another much larger tree not far from the one pictured only had the thinnest diameter twigs die back at the top of the crown.

No splitting of trunk or larger branches. So, I guess no one really knows what the lowest temps this tree will tolerate.

Re: Persea yunnanensis

Cool George. I really like the look of Persea thunbergii. Machilus seems to be used for P. yunnanensis and P. thunbergii in some cases. Didn't know that until I looked up the the plants after your response.

Lot's of changes in the last few years in horticulture.

Re: Persea yunnanensis

yes, machilus was used for the Asian species but has (relatively) recently been merged with persea. have lots of small p. thunbergii seedlings if you're interested in getting a few let me know.

the upper southern oregon coast
USDA zone 9a (Sunset zone 5)
DRY cool summers and WET cool winters
grow eucalyptus, banksias, telopeas, grevilleas, bottlebrush, mexican pines and oaks

Re: Hardiness

FWIW, this species has been rated as (supposedly) hardy to USDA 7 ("www.treesandshrubsonline") BUT even if this was indeed true I would certainly plant it in a cold wind sheltered spot/favorable microclimate in zone 7 (and cooler spots of 8) for sure---if only because it is so rare and hard to find in the first place.

the upper southern oregon coast
USDA zone 9a (Sunset zone 5)
DRY cool summers and WET cool winters
grow eucalyptus, banksias, telopeas, grevilleas, bottlebrush, mexican pines and oaks

Yes Please

That would be fantastic George. I would love a seedling. I'm not sure how it get's sent. Of course I would pay for shipping.

Re: Yes Please

contact me by email "dismalvista(at)yahoo(dot)com"

the upper southern oregon coast
USDA zone 9a (Sunset zone 5)
DRY cool summers and WET cool winters
grow eucalyptus, banksias, telopeas, grevilleas, bottlebrush, mexican pines and oaks

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