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Same with palms...surely not many but again with the right ecotype, cultivar or hybrid could make the difference. A colder Minor ecotype can likely make it (w/o direct wind), a Birmingham as I had one myself that did good until ants destroyed roots. Needles more difficult I'm sure below 7a, but if protected longer to get truly established maybe then but to get large I'd be amazed. Lol
Rain 50"/year - Elev.< 250 ft.
22 miles west of downtown Manhattan
GARDEN STATE -Lowland wooded swamp
Remnant glacial swamp(meltwaters)from Ice Age
State Dinosaur: Hadrosaurus Foulkii(plant-eater)
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