: I don't know how old you are and how did you
: live M.S. 2 president mandates 1986-91+91-96
: but it was rather common to hear that.
: I'm 31. And no, never heard or read anything
: like that.
: Well, that will pass
: Start by reading Lucas post above
I said I never heard or read. I didn't say it was not true.
: I know I will cause controversy in saying
: that but the portuguese people still has
: some monarchic genes who tend to fascionate
: them with the royal pomp and Mario Soares
: embodied that in his 2nd mandate, and the
: man on the street appreciate that.
: Not controversial at all. People like to see
: some pomp, why not. But to imagine the Duke
: of Braganza "regaining" a throne
: after more than 100 years to be styled His
: Majesty the King... no, I don't think the
: majority would vote for that
: Just remember that M.S. succeeded cold and
: spartan General Ramalho Eanes in the
: presidency, a man who definitely lacked the
: panache of M.S. and whose double
: presidencies were grey and dull.
: His wife was definitely not a monarchist.
: Curiously, Maria Barroso said in an
: interview that Queen Sofía once asked her
: why she didn't succeed her husband as
: President (not sure if HM meant a
: 'monarchist' succession or was just
: wondering why she didn't run for in a
: presidential election). Maria Barroso
: answered that Portugal was not a monarchy
: Now it's my time not to have heard that
: Anyhow, silly comment by both ladies.
I'm pretty sure Queen Sofia was either joking or talking about the former First Lady running for President and not about a monarchist succession.
: Maria Barroso could only succeed her husband
: if she would have stood for president, never
: in a succession process.
: I wonder if Q.Sofia ever thought of
: succeeding JC...
: (*) Unlike in Spain, where many people are
: treated as Don, in Portugal such treatment
: is restricted to the descendants of the
: aristocratic families (although few used
: them in day life).
: Calling a man "dom" in day life?
: Again, never heard so...
: What can I say ? You are a bit distracted .
: Not really. I understand you meant people
: other than the aristocracy would use
: "dom" in their daily life the same
: way "dona" is used for ladies.
: Definitely not. The "Dom" prefix
: is restricted to royalty and aristocracy,
: while the "Dona" is extended to
: any woman, royal or commoner, again, by
: educated people.
: I can't stand the new fashion of
: ill-educated people calling everybody
: Senhora Maria or Senhor José.
: They don't stand a chance with me.
: Members of families such as the Lafões,
: Palmela or Loulé f.i., usually have the Dom
: before there name.
: Even D.Fernando de Mascarenhas, the late
: marquss of Fronteira, the "red
: marquess" cared for the use of Dom.
: Some leftist or ill-educated press sometimes
: opt for ignoring that, but that's their
: Ill-educated press? Lol. To imagine someone
: who doesn't care about aristocracy at all
: would care to write "dom/dona"
: about some marquess or countess in 2017 is
: rather funny.
: I was speaking ONLY of the Dukes of
: Bragança, not other aristocrats.
: One mag keeps referring to them as plain
: Duarte Pio and Isabel.
Kate Middleton, Mázima Zorreguieta, Letizia Ortiz, Camilla Parker-Bowles. I'm sure you read about these names instead of their titles so, nothing new in the press.
: As you know, the Duchess of Cadaval is
: usually referred to sinply as Diana de
: Cadaval without the Dona she is entitled to.
Absolutely. Same goes for her mother.
: One of our society magazines usually treat
: the Dukes of Bragança just as Duarte Pio and
: Isabel, omitting the Dom/Dona.
: And I bet they couldn't care less. Come on,
: Knowing their character, I fully agree.
: Doesn't mean I like it.
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