: I don't know how old you are and how did you
: live M.S. 2 president mandates 1986-91+91-96
: but it was rather common to hear that.
: I'm 31. And no, never heard or read anything
: like that.
Well, that will pass
Start by reading Lucas post above
: I know I will cause controversy in saying
: that but the portuguese people still has
: some monarchic genes who tend to fascionate
: them with the royal pomp and Mario Soares
: embodied that in his 2nd mandate, and the
: man on the street appreciate that.
: Not controversial at all. People like to see
: some pomp, why not. But to imagine the Duke
: of Braganza "regaining" a throne
: after more than 100 years to be styled His
: Majesty the King... no, I don't think the
: majority would vote for that
: Just remember that M.S. succeeded cold and
: spartan General Ramalho Eanes in the
: presidency, a man who definitely lacked the
: panache of M.S. and whose double
: presidencies were grey and dull.
: His wife was definitely not a monarchist.
: Curiously, Maria Barroso said in an
: interview that Queen Sofía once asked her
: why she didn't succeed her husband as
: President (not sure if HM meant a
: 'monarchist' succession or was just
: wondering why she didn't run for in a
: presidential election). Maria Barroso
: answered that Portugal was not a monarchy
Now it's my time not to have heard that before
Anyhow, silly comment by both ladies.
Maria Barroso could only succeed her husband if she would have stood for president, never in a succession process.
I wonder if Q.Sofia ever thought of succeeding JC...
: (*) Unlike in Spain, where many people are
: treated as Don, in Portugal such treatment
: is restricted to the descendants of the
: aristocratic families (although few used
: them in day life).
: Calling a man "dom" in day life?
: Again, never heard so...
: What can I say ? You are a bit distracted .
: Not really. I understand you meant people
: other than the aristocracy would use
: "dom" in their daily life the same
: way "dona" is used for ladies.
Definitely not. The "Dom" prefix is restricted to royalty and aristocracy, while the "Dona" is extended to any woman, royal or commoner, again, by educated people.
I can't stand the new fashion of ill-educated people calling everybody Senhora Maria or Senhor José.
They don't stand a chance with me.
: Members of families such as the Lafões,
: Palmela or Loulé f.i., usually have the Dom
: before there name.
: Even D.Fernando de Mascarenhas, the late
: marquss of Fronteira, the "red
: marquess" cared for the use of Dom.
: Some leftist or ill-educated press sometimes
: opt for ignoring that, but that's their
: Ill-educated press? Lol. To imagine someone
: who doesn't care about aristocracy at all
: would care to write "dom/dona"
: about some marquess or countess in 2017 is
: rather funny.
I was speaking ONLY of the Dukes of Bragança, not other aristocrats.
One mag keeps referring to them as plain Duarte Pio and Isabel.
As you know, the Duchess of Cadaval is usually referred to sinply as Diana de Cadaval without the Dona she is entitled to.
: One of our society magazines usually treat
: the Dukes of Bragança just as Duarte Pio and
: Isabel, omitting the Dom/Dona.
: And I bet they couldn't care less. Come on,
Knowing their character, I fully agree.
Doesn't mean I like it.
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