Posted by José
on 3/11/2009, 0:39:06, in reply to "Re: Why couldn't Felipe marry a foreigner?"
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AFAIK the Royal Palace is ran by the Patrimonio Nacional .
Who would have given permission for the photo session ?
Shouldn't the King have at least been asked if he had anything against, considering it was his niece ?
I suppose it is not common for people to pose at the Royal Palace with the Royal Guard...
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: The wedding was polemic. It was criticised and
: it was considered too much (something that
: happened with PM Aznar's daughters years
: later), with many guests. And then the
: Simoneta's cover in Hola posing at the Royal
: Palace witht he Royal Guard. In the end, the
: King and Queen only attended the ceremony
: and not the banquet, to avoid being involved
: in the controversy.
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: What was the reason, Manuel? You have piqued
: my interest!
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: --Previous Message--
: The Thyssens' presence was not the reason to
: skip Simoneta's banquet.
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: IIR the King and Queen were at Simonetta's
: wedding but skipped the lunch as the
: Thyssens were sort of special guests.
: Heini gave Simonetta a car as a wedding
: gift.
: Yes, the Thyssens were close to the Infanta
: and her husband.
:
: And the Baroness really likes to appear in
: the news.
: After the scandal she mounted saying her
: "grandson" was not her son's child
: and forcing him to the public humiliation of
: making paternity tests, it was rumoured that
: the two twins Carmen adopted a few years ago
: were ... her son's daughters.
:
: Nice family
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: Jane, marrying a royal, and a foreigner is
: something I have been for, as you all know.
: The recent stories about Leti's sister and
: aunt are simply pathetic. Now the
: principessa Henar has become a close friend
: of Carmen Thyssen. Henar gets social
: influence (and designs condoms for the
: museum ) and Carmen gets closer to the
: palace. Well, to the future one, because
: Queen Sofia has never been fond of her. She
: was close to the CoB and is close to Infanta
: Pilar, but has never succeeded in
: "trespassing" the palace.
: About Prince Felipe and Liechtenstein, the
: relationship between Felipe and Tatiana was
: encouraged by both sides (both parents).
: Tatiana was even sent to Spain to live here
: for a period of time.
: When Prince Alois married, the PM of
: Liechtenstein told the Spanish journalists:
: "next time we will see in Madrid".
: But, in the end, there was no
: "chemistry" between both parties.
: The rumours ended when Tatiana once told in
: Paris to the Spanish journalists who were
: chasing her: "There will be no wedding
: and I do not like Felipe". End of the
: story.
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: If Leonor will ever succeed to the spanish
: throne, and
: If she decides to marry a spanish commoner,
: I recomend that she will marry an only son,
: of an only son of an only son, for at least
: 10 generations.
:
: You mean only CHILD -- in light of your
: report about the paternal aunt of Letizia
: ...
:
: Personally, I think that the Infanta Leonor
: should marry a foreigner -- whether royal or
: commoner (preferably the former, of course).
: One of the principle reasons behind
: Ebenbuertigkeit was precisely the prevention
: of locals making national news (and possibly
: scandals) and gaining influence over the
: royal family. After all, royals are
: supposed to be above internal politics and
: not take sides in internecine squabbles --
: something signified by the choice of spouses
: from the national ranks.
:
: It's just that historically speaking,
: marrying a foreigner typically meant
: marrying someone of *equal* birth. In
: today's world, of course, that's hardly done
: anymore -- so the least the royals could do
: (if they marry beneath their rank) is to
: marry foreign-born and raised commoners.
: This seems to have worked well enough in
: Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, and
: Luxembourg.
:
: Norway thus far has been lucky in avoiding
: any major scandal, despite the presence of
: native-born commoners in the royal family
: (perhaps the relatives have been respectful,
: in trying to stay out of the limelight).
: Belgium and the UK have heirs who married
: nationals -- but the wives at least were of
: high birth. This may have been unacceptable
: in the past, but by today's standards is
: considered respectable. It still hasn't
: totally prevented *scandals* -- but at least
: they've been mostly minor (witness the
: controversial actions of Princess Mathilde's
: family, regarding an inheritance).
:
: Hereditary Prince Aloys of Liechtenstein is
: certainly in a class all by himself -- being
: the only heir to a throne, in his
: generation, to marrying completely
: *equally.* I wonder if Hereditary Princess
: Sophie, before marriage, was ever linked to
: the Prince of the Asturias ...
:
: Perhaps she WAS, but the Liechtensteinians
: envisioned their own princess as the future
: bride of Felipe (something that King Juan
: Carlos and Queen Sofia would dearly have
: welcomed), and sent her the message that
: "no, Felipe is for Tatiana; you can
: have her brother Aloys as your husband
: instead."
:
: I personally think that the other Philippe
: (the Duke of Brabant) should have married
: either Princess Sophie of Bavaria or one of
: the Spanish Infantas (Elena or Cristina),
: Mathilde should have married Prince Aloys
: (she would have been an acceptable bride by
: Liechtensteinian standards, even before
: World War I), and that Felipe should have
: married Tatiana.
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