Posted by manuel
on 2/11/2009, 20:49:57, in reply to "Re: Why couldn't Felipe marry a foreigner?"
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The wedding was polemic. It was criticised and it was considered too much (something that happened with PM Aznar's daughters years later), with many guests. And then the Simoneta's cover in Hola posing at the Royal Palace witht he Royal Guard. In the end, the King and Queen only attended the ceremony and not the banquet, to avoid being involved in the controversy.
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: What was the reason, Manuel? You have piqued
: my interest!
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: The Thyssens' presence was not the reason to
: skip Simoneta's banquet.
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: IIR the King and Queen were at Simonetta's
: wedding but skipped the lunch as the
: Thyssens were sort of special guests.
: Heini gave Simonetta a car as a wedding
: gift.
: Yes, the Thyssens were close to the Infanta
: and her husband.
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: And the Baroness really likes to appear in
: the news.
: After the scandal she mounted saying her
: "grandson" was not her son's child
: and forcing him to the public humiliation of
: making paternity tests, it was rumoured that
: the two twins Carmen adopted a few years ago
: were ... her son's daughters.
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: Nice family
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: Jane, marrying a royal, and a foreigner is
: something I have been for, as you all know.
: The recent stories about Leti's sister and
: aunt are simply pathetic. Now the
: principessa Henar has become a close friend
: of Carmen Thyssen. Henar gets social
: influence (and designs condoms for the
: museum ) and Carmen gets closer to the
: palace. Well, to the future one, because
: Queen Sofia has never been fond of her. She
: was close to the CoB and is close to Infanta
: Pilar, but has never succeeded in
: "trespassing" the palace.
: About Prince Felipe and Liechtenstein, the
: relationship between Felipe and Tatiana was
: encouraged by both sides (both parents).
: Tatiana was even sent to Spain to live here
: for a period of time.
: When Prince Alois married, the PM of
: Liechtenstein told the Spanish journalists:
: "next time we will see in Madrid".
: But, in the end, there was no
: "chemistry" between both parties.
: The rumours ended when Tatiana once told in
: Paris to the Spanish journalists who were
: chasing her: "There will be no wedding
: and I do not like Felipe". End of the
: story.
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: If Leonor will ever succeed to the spanish
: throne, and
: If she decides to marry a spanish commoner,
: I recomend that she will marry an only son,
: of an only son of an only son, for at least
: 10 generations.
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: You mean only CHILD -- in light of your
: report about the paternal aunt of Letizia
: ...
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: Personally, I think that the Infanta Leonor
: should marry a foreigner -- whether royal or
: commoner (preferably the former, of course).
: One of the principle reasons behind
: Ebenbuertigkeit was precisely the prevention
: of locals making national news (and possibly
: scandals) and gaining influence over the
: royal family. After all, royals are
: supposed to be above internal politics and
: not take sides in internecine squabbles --
: something signified by the choice of spouses
: from the national ranks.
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: It's just that historically speaking,
: marrying a foreigner typically meant
: marrying someone of *equal* birth. In
: today's world, of course, that's hardly done
: anymore -- so the least the royals could do
: (if they marry beneath their rank) is to
: marry foreign-born and raised commoners.
: This seems to have worked well enough in
: Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, and
: Luxembourg.
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: Norway thus far has been lucky in avoiding
: any major scandal, despite the presence of
: native-born commoners in the royal family
: (perhaps the relatives have been respectful,
: in trying to stay out of the limelight).
: Belgium and the UK have heirs who married
: nationals -- but the wives at least were of
: high birth. This may have been unacceptable
: in the past, but by today's standards is
: considered respectable. It still hasn't
: totally prevented *scandals* -- but at least
: they've been mostly minor (witness the
: controversial actions of Princess Mathilde's
: family, regarding an inheritance).
:
: Hereditary Prince Aloys of Liechtenstein is
: certainly in a class all by himself -- being
: the only heir to a throne, in his
: generation, to marrying completely
: *equally.* I wonder if Hereditary Princess
: Sophie, before marriage, was ever linked to
: the Prince of the Asturias ...
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: Perhaps she WAS, but the Liechtensteinians
: envisioned their own princess as the future
: bride of Felipe (something that King Juan
: Carlos and Queen Sofia would dearly have
: welcomed), and sent her the message that
: "no, Felipe is for Tatiana; you can
: have her brother Aloys as your husband
: instead."
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: I personally think that the other Philippe
: (the Duke of Brabant) should have married
: either Princess Sophie of Bavaria or one of
: the Spanish Infantas (Elena or Cristina),
: Mathilde should have married Prince Aloys
: (she would have been an acceptable bride by
: Liechtensteinian standards, even before
: World War I), and that Felipe should have
: married Tatiana.
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