Posted by Guy Stair Sainty
on 25/8/2012, 23:44:41, in reply to "Re: I meant 1945-2001"
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This excellent summary of the situation does, I believe provide sufficient support for the succession of the Carlow line. Furthermore, Karl-Michael's renunciation of 1918 was never validated by the Mecklemburg government or parliament and could not therefore have had any formal legal effect anyway.
What is rather surprising is that as late as August 1918, Karl Michael still apparently believed he could have a career in Russia.
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: In 1914 Duke Karl Michael wrote to
: Grand-Duke Adolf Friedrich VI of
: Mecklenburg-Strelitz saying he wanted to
: renounce his rights as agnate for himself
: and any eventual issue of his born of an
: equal marriage and thus establish himself
: permanently in Russia (where he was an
: officer of that country's army)…The Grand
: Duke gave him permission to naturalise
: himself in Russia but asked Karl Michael not
: to make a renunciation then, which he
: agreed, and said he would only do it when
: it would be opportune…
:
: On February 23rd 1918 Grand Duke Adolf
: Friedrich VI committed suicide and Karl
: Michael became the only dynast of the House
: of Mecklenburg-Strelitz...but Germany was at
: war with Russia, and Karl Michael was a
: Russian subject, Grand Duke Friedrich Franz
: IV of Schwerin assumed the Regency of
: Mecklenburg-Strelitz and he sent a letter
: asking Karl Michael if he wished to confirm
: his decision to renounce his succession
: rights, which he finally did on August 10th
: 1918...On November 14th 1918 Grand Duke
: Friedrich Franz IV of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
: abdicated his Grand Ducal throne of
: M-Schwerin and in M-Strelitz the cabinet of
: the Grand Duchy declared the end of his
: regency (in the former Grand Duchies there
: were established Free States part of the
: German Republic)...Friedrich Franz IV only
: received the letter of the renunciation in
: January 1919...
: So apparently Karl Michael only renounced
: his rights on 10 Aug 1918...and some in
: Strelitz considered him their rightful
: sovereign, despite his renunciation...
:
: In 1928 Karl Michael adopted his only (male)
: nephew Georg, Count von Carlow, and thus he
: got the surname Herzog zu Mecklenburg...In
: 1929 Grand Duke Kirill of Russia recognised
: Georg as Duke of Mecklenburg and Serene
: Highness, which must be understood as a
: Russian title...but on 23 Dec 1949 Friedrich
: Franz (V), Hereditary Grand Duke of
: Mecklenburg(-Strelitz) recognised the right
: of the line of Georg Graf von Carlow to bear
: the name Herzog zu Mecklenburg (just like
: the other dynast of the family) and on 18
: Dec 1950 the style of Highness...
:
: Sources: François Velde, Christian Cannuyer,
: Paul Theroff.
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