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Re: I meant 1945-2001
Posted by Guy Stair Sainty on 25/8/2012, 23:44:41, in reply to "Re: I meant 1945-2001"
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This excellent summary of the situation does, I believe provide sufficient support for the succession of the Carlow line. Furthermore, Karl-Michael's renunciation of 1918 was never validated by the Mecklemburg government or parliament and could not therefore have had any formal legal effect anyway. |
What is rather surprising is that as late as August 1918, Karl Michael still apparently believed he could have a career in Russia.
: In 1914 Duke Karl Michael wrote to
: Grand-Duke Adolf Friedrich VI of
: Mecklenburg-Strelitz saying he wanted to
: renounce his rights as agnate for himself
: and any eventual issue of his born of an
: equal marriage and thus establish himself
: permanently in Russia (where he was an
: officer of that country's army)…The Grand
: Duke gave him permission to naturalise
: himself in Russia but asked Karl Michael not
: to make a renunciation then, which he
: agreed, and said he would only do it when
: it would be opportune…
: On February 23rd 1918 Grand Duke Adolf
: Friedrich VI committed suicide and Karl
: Michael became the only dynast of the House
: of Mecklenburg-Strelitz...but Germany was at
: war with Russia, and Karl Michael was a
: Russian subject, Grand Duke Friedrich Franz
: IV of Schwerin assumed the Regency of
: Mecklenburg-Strelitz and he sent a letter
: asking Karl Michael if he wished to confirm
: his decision to renounce his succession
: rights, which he finally did on August 10th
: 1918...On November 14th 1918 Grand Duke
: Friedrich Franz IV of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
: abdicated his Grand Ducal throne of
: M-Schwerin and in M-Strelitz the cabinet of
: the Grand Duchy declared the end of his
: regency (in the former Grand Duchies there
: were established Free States part of the
: German Republic)...Friedrich Franz IV only
: received the letter of the renunciation in
: January 1919...
: So apparently Karl Michael only renounced
: his rights on 10 Aug 1918...and some in
: Strelitz considered him their rightful
: sovereign, despite his renunciation...
: In 1928 Karl Michael adopted his only (male)
: nephew Georg, Count von Carlow, and thus he
: got the surname Herzog zu Mecklenburg...In
: 1929 Grand Duke Kirill of Russia recognised
: Georg as Duke of Mecklenburg and Serene
: Highness, which must be understood as a
: Russian title...but on 23 Dec 1949 Friedrich
: Franz (V), Hereditary Grand Duke of
: Mecklenburg(-Strelitz) recognised the right
: of the line of Georg Graf von Carlow to bear
: the name Herzog zu Mecklenburg (just like
: the other dynast of the family) and on 18
: Dec 1950 the style of Highness...
: Sources: François Velde, Christian Cannuyer,
: Paul Theroff.
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