Posted by manuel on 13/5/2011, 0:30:21, in reply to "Re: New Prince of Bulgaria"
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Actually, it is the opposite. All monarchs were the fount of honours and had the right to create titles to members of the family. Except if explicitly prohibited, like the 1812 constitution in the Spanish case.
For example, the King of France elevated the minor branch of Orleans to HRH and the same with the King of Bavaria with the Ducal branch (Herzog in Bayern)
So, it is to you to prove that monarchs do not have the right to create titles or styles for members of their families.
--Previous Message--
: The burden of proof lies with you to prove
: that, during the monarchy, the King of
: Bulgaria had the unilateral right to create
: cognates as Princes of Bulgaria. YOU have to
: prove that exists.
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: We know it exists in the UK because, since
: time immemorial, the sovereign has been the
: fount of all honours and has a legal
: mechanism (letters patent) by which they
: have created princes. Other monarchies,
: mostly newly created ones, have had
: limitations placed upon what the monarch can
: and cannot do. Prove that the King could
: create cognates as princes during the
: monarchy and I'll believe you.
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: --Previous Message--
: Really? Why not? Can you elaborate your
: point?
: Why the monarchs of the UK and Spain can
: grant royal titles to their grandchildren in
: the female line and others do not have that
: prerrogative? Is it because they had
: succession rights in Spain and the UK and
: not in other countries? But titles and
: succession rights are not always linked.
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: --Previous Message--
: These monarchs had the prerogative and
: rights
: to do so though. It is NOT true for all
: monarchs.
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: The only people created Infantes of Spain
: were either Bourbons or those married to
: Infantas with succession rights and
: domiciled in Spain.
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: And children of those Infantas. Children of
: Infantas Luisa Fernanda, Eulalia, Maria de
: las Mercedes and Maria Teresa, for example.
: And children of Eulalia's son created Royal
: Highnesses, as well as children of Infante
: Carlos, former Prince (consort) of Asturias.
: Not only Edward VII. Queen Victoria created
: grandchildren in the female line British
: Highnesses.
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