Posted by William F on 20/4/2011, 22:21:58, in reply to "Re: Pretenders with many (potential) claims"
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Wasn't this also among the titles of the Kings of Spain?
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: The kings of Sardinia were once styled
: "kings of sardinia, Cyprus and
: Jerusalem, etc." and the heir used the
: title of Duke of Savoy.
: After the proclamation of the Kingdom of
: Italy (1861), the use of the former titles
: was discontinued, but not renounced, while
: the latter was waived pursuant to the
: agreements between Sardinia and France.
: Therefore the Savoys should be able to use
: at least those titles covering territories
: presently comprised under various sovereign
: states:
: King of Italy (encompassing the one of King
: of Sardinia)
: King of Cyprus
: King of Jerusalem
: King of Armenia
: Duke of Genevois
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: --Previous Message--
: Eh, I should have mentioned that too. I
: think
: "Emperor of Russia" contains most
: of those aside from the Oldenburg dynastic
: titles.
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: --Previous Message--
: Grand Duchess Maria of Russia? I beleive the
: Russian title covered many territories.
:
: cut from wikipedia
:
: Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, of
: Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod, Tsar of
: Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland,
: Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Tauric Chersonesos,
: Tsar of Georgia, Lord of Pskov, and Grand
: Duke of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia,
: Podolia, and Finland, Prince of Estonia,
: Livonia, Courland and Semigalia, Samogitia,
: Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugra, Perm,
: Vyatka, Bulgaria and other territories; Lord
: and Grand Duke of Nizhni Novgorod, Sovereign
: of Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov,
: Yaroslavl, Beloozero, Udoria, Obdoria,
: Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislavl, and all northern
: territories; Sovereign of Iveria,
: Kartalinia, and the Kabardinian lands and
: Armenian territories - hereditary Lord and
: Ruler of the Circassians and Mountain
: Princes and others; Lord of Turkestan, Heir
: of Norway, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein,
: Stormarn, Dithmarschen, Oldenburg, and so
: forth, and so forth, and so forth."
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: --Previous Message--
: I've been thinking about the interesting
: ways
: that certain royals can be heir general to a
: great number of historic territorial claims.
: I can't think of many off the top of my head
: though. Who are some European royals who fit
: in this group?
:
: When I think of the Duke of Bavaria, for
: instance, he is, for some people, titular
: King of Bavaria, of Greece, of England, of
: Scotland, of France and of Ireland. Although
: those are two extra 'claimed' successions
: (on his behalf), they do represent six
: historic kingdoms!
:
: How many potential, distinct, territories
: would someone like Otto von Habsburg be able
: to claim if he so wished? Yes, there is the
: grand title of the Austrian emperors but
: many of those mentioned are covered by other
: titles they had. For instance, the Kingdom
: of Hungary had kingdoms in it. Same with the
: Prussians!
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: Any others?
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