Re: Pretenders with many (potential) claims
Posted by Charles on 20/4/2011, 5:11:40, in reply to "Re: Pretenders with many (potential) claims"
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Eh, I should have mentioned that too. I think "Emperor of Russia" contains most of those aside from the Oldenburg dynastic titles. |
: Grand Duchess Maria of Russia? I beleive the
: Russian title covered many territories.
: cut from wikipedia
: Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, of
: Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod, Tsar of
: Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland,
: Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Tauric Chersonesos,
: Tsar of Georgia, Lord of Pskov, and Grand
: Duke of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia,
: Podolia, and Finland, Prince of Estonia,
: Livonia, Courland and Semigalia, Samogitia,
: Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugra, Perm,
: Vyatka, Bulgaria and other territories; Lord
: and Grand Duke of Nizhni Novgorod, Sovereign
: of Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov,
: Yaroslavl, Beloozero, Udoria, Obdoria,
: Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislavl, and all northern
: territories; Sovereign of Iveria,
: Kartalinia, and the Kabardinian lands and
: Armenian territories - hereditary Lord and
: Ruler of the Circassians and Mountain
: Princes and others; Lord of Turkestan, Heir
: of Norway, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein,
: Stormarn, Dithmarschen, Oldenburg, and so
: forth, and so forth, and so forth."
: --Previous Message--
: I've been thinking about the interesting
: that certain royals can be heir general to a
: great number of historic territorial claims.
: I can't think of many off the top of my head
: though. Who are some European royals who fit
: in this group?
: When I think of the Duke of Bavaria, for
: instance, he is, for some people, titular
: King of Bavaria, of Greece, of England, of
: Scotland, of France and of Ireland. Although
: those are two extra 'claimed' successions
: (on his behalf), they do represent six
: historic kingdoms!
: How many potential, distinct, territories
: would someone like Otto von Habsburg be able
: to claim if he so wished? Yes, there is the
: grand title of the Austrian emperors but
: many of those mentioned are covered by other
: titles they had. For instance, the Kingdom
: of Hungary had kingdoms in it. Same with the
: Any others?