Posted by Alpha on 22/1/2011, 16:02:44, in reply to "Re: The "What If" Thing"
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: Princess Elizabeth would have been sixteen
: when William IV died. Queen Adelaide would
: have been regent until December 1838. The
: young Queen’s initial relationship with her
: ministers would therefore have differed from
: that of her Kent cousin. She may well have
: found it difficult to shift away from a
: mother who was Queen Regent rather than
: merely Duchess of Kent.
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: From what we know about her,I think Queen
: Adelaide would have been a more supportive
: and less domineering figure than her Kent
: sister-in-law which would have made the
: hypothetical Elizabeth II's task a great
: deal easier than Cousin Victoria's
: notoriously difficult relationship with her
: own mother would prove.
I agree about Adelaide but she would have been Regent after Charlotte's succession, whereas the Duchess lost her authority.
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: Moreover, there was no “Uncle Leopold”
: figure
: with ties to Britain and a pan-European
: ambition.
:
: Leopold remained on the scene as Princess
: Charlotte's widower until 1831 when he
: accepted the Belgian crown.So he might have
: continued to have an influence even though
: he had no direct blood ties to the Clarence
: family unlike with the Kents.
:
: Queen Elizabeth’s eventual marriage might
: have
: been influenced by her surviving uncles.
: Prince George of Cambridge, at one point
: tipped to marry Victoria, would have stood a
: better change with Elizabeth, I think. Of
: course, Leopold might have tried to secure
: Elizabeth for Albert as he did Maria da
: Gloria for Ferdinand. Why waste a nephew on
: Victoria? That said, she would have been
: Elizabeth's heiress presumptive. I suspect
: both Ernst and Albert might have remained on
: these shores.
:
: Interesting possibilities.Of course a lot
: would have depended on whether 'Queen
: Elizabeth II' would have been as strong a
: personality as her cousins Princess
: Charlotte and Queen Victoria turned out to
: be and how far she would have resisted
: advice to follow her own heart!
:
: Personally,I'm more intrigued by how things
: would have turned out if Cousin Charlotte
: and her baby son had both survived.After all
: we don't know what sort of person Princess
: Elizabeth of Clarence would have grown into
: but we know a great deal about Charlotte of
: Wales as she was a fully grown young woman
: at the time of her tragic death.She was
: every bit as wilful and stubborn as Victoria
: (she too followed her heart in her choice of
: husband) but seemed to possess more charm
: and joie de vivre.How different and lasting
: an impression would the reign of Queen
: Charlotte and Prince Leopold have had on
: Britain and elswhere based on what we
: already know about them as people?
:
I agree that Queen Charlotte, Prince Leopoldm, and small Prince George are the more interesting "What if". The infant Prince, a great-grandson for George III, would have been created a prince of the UK and Hannover, I supposse. Or would he have remained a Coburg until his Mama's successsion? A related "What if" is what would have happened is if Charlotte died in chldbirth leaving a living child, as did Maria da Gloria of Portugal. What sort of Regent would Leopold have made?
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