Posted by M.Sjostrom on 12/8/2009, 13:31:57
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Now that it's clear two of the three children of the Swedish king will be in marriage (and possibly producing their own issue) within two years, a few thoughts about that progeny and what could happen.
I predict that it is likely that the youngest is to have children. And though it is likelier that both of the daughters will have children than not, still it is possible that the dynasty continues via the youngest.
Such a scenario has certain implications. More about that later.
It is foreseeable that Carl Philip's marriage will occur only somewhat later - if he ever marries. Quite probable that his wedding is not coming to cram to these years, seeing that his both sisters are getting married in 2010 (or 2011 at latest).
[though, he might still surprise, and have a blitz wedding within a year - but such is very unlikely]
It is even possible that Carl Philip will never marry.
As a male, his reproduction is not as limited to certain age than his sisters'. Though I am not suggesting that he should sire children in, say, only his fifties, still even such a delay is not impossible. Unusual, though, particukarly in usages of today western world.
However, if he marries, and has children (if so, he probably will have some children within the next ten years), his children will be much closer to the throne than Madeleine's.
It might even be that Victoria would not have children at all. These things are not so certain. A marriage is not a guarantee to have children.
I see a potential for dilemma here: Carl Philip's children are inevitably closer to the throne than Madeleine's, but an ideology of gender equality might try to dictate that Carl Philip's children will not get any better titles than Madeleine's.
Of course, if Victoria turns out to be childless, then it is only sound sense to give royal titles to Carl Philip's children. And also so even in case Victoria has a child - if she does not have several.
I predict these things will be solved ultimately about a time when Victoria turns 45 (after 2020). At such a time, it is visible what would be patterns of heirs and spares of the dynasty.
Madeleine's children are of course likely to receive royal titles, if it turns out that both Victoria and Carl Philip remain childless - or perhaps, if only one child altogether will come from all senior branches, so Madeleine's eldest would be first spare heir of that generation.
I can see a delay in the future: IF Victoria and Carl Philip remain for long childless, then it would take up to 2020s to see whether there is a necessity to raise Madeleine's child or children as heir to the kingdom. And that in the likely scenario that Madeleine will however have her children already soon.
This might mean an interim when they possibly are not yet titled royals.
All that said, earlier Swedish royal courts have had male-line grandchildren of current or deceased monarchs as princes and princesses.
It is not at all impossible that the limit will be stretched to all grandchildren also with these, already now from the beginning.
If one wants to see that as risk, so be it: there's the optimistic risk that each of the three will have children, and the total number of grandchildren of the current king will be as high as perhaps ten. Okay, a risk: would Swedis royalty be a title-inflation-eaten thing if ten royal grandchildren all are princes and princesses...
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