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Re: dutch princesses

Posted by Johan on 10/6/2009, 12:01:29, in reply to "dutch princesses"
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Yes upon their accession they no longer were princess of the Netherlands.
They were however still princesses but of Orange-Nassau and Juliana and Beatrix were/are also princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld.
Dutch official acts state:

We by the grace of God Beatrix, Queen of the Netherlands, princess of Orange-Nassau etc etc etc

Those three etc's stand for the other titles. In Beatrix' case princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld and a list of other titles like Duchess of Limburg, countess of Buren and 30 odd others. The accuracy of those titles is however difficult as noble titles do not inherit in the female line in the Netherlands. As secondairy titles of the monarch they can however be seen as non-noble titles.

--Previous Message--
:
: intriguingly enough,
: when queens Wilhelmina and Juliana
: abdicated, thet apparently reverted to be
: princesses of the Netherlands.
:
: Had they ever ceased to be princesses of the
: Netherlands ?
:

Message Thread:

A question of titles - Jane 9/6/2009, 1:43:39
- Re: A question of titles - Cynthia 9/6/2009, 2:14:24
  - Re: A question of titles - M.Sjostrom 9/6/2009, 7:37:47
- Re: A question of titles - Marlene 9/6/2009, 2:35:39
  - Re: A question of titles - Damian 9/6/2009, 14:19:57
- Re: A question of titles - Erik 9/6/2009, 11:26:42
  - Re: A question of titles - Johan 9/6/2009, 11:30:39
  - Fabiola - not a princess - M.Sjostrom 9/6/2009, 11:32:33
    - Re: Fabiola - not a princess - Erik 9/6/2009, 12:24:55
      - Re: Fabiola - not a princess - Marlene 9/6/2009, 16:46:11
        
        Re: Fabiola - not a princess - Stefan 9/6/2009, 16:51:26
        
        Re: Fabiola - not a princess - Martin C. 9/6/2009, 16:52:12
        
        Back to the original question - Martin C. 9/6/2009, 16:54:47
        
        HM Queen Ingrid of Denmark, Princess of Sweden - Martin C. 19/6/2009, 18:40:49
        
        Re: Fabiola - Queen and Princess - Cabri 9/6/2009, 20:02:26
        
        Re: Fabiola - Paola - José 23/6/2009, 18:31:34
        
        Re: Fabiola - Paola - Eric VdV 24/6/2009, 23:13:48
        
        Juliana - José 23/6/2009, 18:29:35
        
        Re: Juliana - Erik 23/6/2009, 23:14:08
        
        Charlotte and Jean - José 24/6/2009, 0:48:55
        
        Re: Charlotte and Jean - Eric VdV 24/6/2009, 23:14:14
  - Re: A question of titles - Marlene 9/6/2009, 16:45:28
    - Re: A question of titles - Erik 9/6/2009, 17:49:23
      - is Fabiola really a princess ? - M.Sjostrom 9/6/2009, 18:18:31
        
        Re: is Fabiola really a princess ? - Dag T. Hoelseth 9/6/2009, 20:20:07
      - Re: A question of titles - Eric VdV 9/6/2009, 22:56:21
      - Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 0:48:59
        
        Re: Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - Cabri 10/6/2009, 7:43:25
        
        Re: Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 9:37:32
        
        Re: Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - Johan 10/6/2009, 11:50:47
        
        Re: Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 12:50:20
        
        Re: Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - Johan 10/6/2009, 13:52:28
        
        weddings of Albert's sons - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 14:03:35
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - Stefan 10/6/2009, 16:13:35
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - Johan 10/6/2009, 16:39:55
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - M.Sjostrom 11/6/2009, 5:58:23
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - Johan 11/6/2009, 9:07:49
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - M.Sjostrom 11/6/2009, 9:57:15
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - Erik 10/6/2009, 17:29:36
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - M.Sjostrom 11/6/2009, 6:18:00
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - Dag T. Hoelseth 11/6/2009, 10:22:58
        
        Re: weddings of Albert's sons - M.Sjostrom 11/6/2009, 10:47:48
        
        arveprins, arvfurste... - M.Sjostrom 11/6/2009, 10:55:23
        
        Re: arveprins, arvfurste... - Dag T. Hoelseth 11/6/2009, 11:10:07
        
        Re: Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - Cabri 10/6/2009, 17:35:39
        
        Re: Baudouin was in his own very act, not titled as Prince... - FrankS 21/6/2009, 6:33:07
      - Re: A question of titles - Marlene 11/6/2009, 3:44:06
    - Re: A question of titles - Dag T. Hoelseth 10/6/2009, 10:06:40
      - Re: A question of titles - princess as 'honorific' or 'adjective' - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 11:29:08
  - Belgian titles - Jane 10/6/2009, 0:50:26
    - Re: Belgian titles - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 0:53:02
    - French Imperial title - Cabri 10/6/2009, 7:42:01
    - Her Majesty Queen Margrethe 2, Denmark's Queen - Martin C. 19/6/2009, 18:32:39
      - Re: Her Majesty Queen Margrethe 2, Denmark's Queen - M.Sjostrom 28/6/2009, 23:01:47
  - dutch princesses - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 0:55:29
    - Re: dutch princesses - Johan 10/6/2009, 12:01:29
      - Re: dutch princesses - M.Sjostrom 10/6/2009, 14:27:02
- Official government act - Frank Johansen 10/6/2009, 14:38:31
  - Re: Official government act - Frank Johansen 10/6/2009, 15:47:31
- Re: A question of titles - Frank Johansen 10/6/2009, 14:41:07
  - Re: A question of titles - Dag T. Hoelseth 10/6/2009, 15:19:42
    - Re: A question of titles - Frank Johansen 10/6/2009, 15:42:16
- Re: A question of titles - Rico 13/6/2009, 8:17:39
  - Re: A question of titles - Cabri 14/6/2009, 13:51:54
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--Previous Message-- : Yes upon their accession they no longer were : princess of the Netherlands. : They were however still princesses but of : Orange-Nassau and Juliana and Beatrix : were/are also princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld. : Dutch official acts state: : : We by the grace of God Beatrix, Queen of the : Netherlands, princess of Orange-Nassau etc : etc etc : : Those three etc's stand for the other : titles. In Beatrix' case princess of : Lippe-Biesterfeld and a list of other titles : like Duchess of Limburg, countess of Buren : and 30 odd others. The accuracy of those : titles is however difficult as noble titles : do not inherit in the female line in the : Netherlands. As secondairy titles of the : monarch they can however be seen as : non-noble titles. : : : --Previous Message-- : : intriguingly enough, : when queens Wilhelmina and Juliana : abdicated, thet apparently reverted to be : princesses of the Netherlands. : : Had they ever ceased to be princesses of the : Netherlands ? : : :

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