Posted by Marlene on 9/5/2008, 20:24:50, in reply to "American roots of next jacobite heir"
8.15.250.124
Maria Dahlbo gave birth to a daughter Magdalena in 1704. Are you saying that she also had a child, Samuel in 1724 when she was 42 years old. Moreover, Lord Sandel would indicate a peerage in the British isles, not Sweden. Baron Sandels does not translate to lord Sandels.
Can you provide something substantial to show that Maria was Samuel's mother.
http://web.telia.com/~u25013696/delaware.htm
Peter Matsson Dalbo
Blev högst 52 år.
Far: Mats Hansson (1620 - 1654)
Mor: Elisabet Matsdotter (1622 - 1700)
Född: 1647 Wicaco, Pennsylvania, USA
Död: 1699-10-03 Little Mantua Creek, USA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Familj med Catharine Rambo (1655 - 1722)
Barn:
Maria Matsson Dalbo (1682 - 1739)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Noteringar
Flyttade 1684 till Mantua Creek i nuvarande New Jersey där han blev kolonins största jordägare och ledamot av New Jerseys fullmäktigeförsamling. Enl Stefan Sörensson.
--Previous Message--
:
: Curiously enough, the late princess Diana
: was not the only mother of prominent
: European royals with roots in America.
:
: For example Sophia of Bavaria, who is going
: to succeed in heirship of Jacobite claim to
: the British thrones, has a clear ancestry in
: Pennsylvania via her mother
:
:
: yeoman Peter Matsson, plantage owner in
: Mantua Creek; married (16 February 1674 in
: Bucks County, Pennsylvania)
: Catherine Rambo (bc 1655, New Sweden,
: Pennsylvania; d in July 1698, Gloucester
: County, New Jersey).
: Their children included:
:
: Mary Dahlbo (moved from America to Sweden; b
: 11 May 1682 at Mantua Creek, New Jersey,
: Pennsylvania, North America; d 5 Feb 1739 at
: Hedemora, Dalecarlia, Sweden); married (22
: Feb 1704)
: reverend Anders Sandel, Provost over Swedish
: parishes in America, Head Pastor of Hedemora
: (b 30 Nov 1671 at Hållnäs, priest's
: residence, Sweden; d 11 May 1744 at
: Hedemora, Sweden).
: Their children included:
:
: Samuel Sandel, 1st Lord Sandels (b 14 Dec
: 1724 at Hedemora; d 28 March 1784 at
: Stockholm), mineral chemist, high official
: in Mining Department of Swedish government,
: titled Councillor of Mountains, became
: ennobled on 9 May 1772 by king Gustav III;
: married (20 Nov 1753)
: Katarina Elisabet Brandt (b 1735-11-14; d
: 1782-06-04 at Stockholm) [daughter of Georg
: Brandt, a famed chemist, metallurgist, and
: his wife Anna Maria Norn].
: Their second surviving son was:
:
: Field Marshal, count Johan August Sandels,
: Rigsstatholder of Norway, etc (b 31 Aug 1764
: at Stockholm, d 22 Jan 1831 at Stockholm);
: married
: baroness Ulrika Elisabeth Hermelin.
: Their eldest son and heir was:
:
: Lt-Gen, count Samuel August Sandels, 2.Greve
: Sandels (b. 1810; d. 1892); married
: Hedvig Henrietta Emilie Augusta Tersmeden (b
: 17 Aug 1829; d 25 Jun 1899).
: Their child was:
:
: Augusta Sandels (b 12 May 1853; d 14 Dec
: 1941); married
: Philipp, Fürst zu Eulenburg und Hertefeld (b
: 12 Feb 1847; d 17 Sep 1921).
: Their children included:
:
: countess Viktoria of Eulenburg (b 13 Jul
: 1886; d 23 Sep 1967); married
: Professor Otto Haas-Heye (b 16 Dec 1879; d 9
: Jun 1959).
: Their daughter was:
:
: Ottora Haas-Heye (b 13 Feb 1910; d 17 Jul
: 2001); married
: count Carl Ludvig Douglas (b 26 Jul 1908; d
: 21 Jan 1961).
: their children included:
:
: countess Elisabeth Douglas (b 31 Dec 1940
: -> ); married
: prince Max Emanuel of Bavaria, Duke in
: Bavaria (b 21 Jan 1937 - > ).
: Their eldest daughter is:
:
: Sophia of Bavaria (b 28 Oct 1967 -> );
: married
: Alois, Hereditary Prince of the state of
: Liechtenstein (b 12 Jun 1968 ->).
: Their children includes their eldest son,
: the boy who is seemingly going to be in some
: future:
:
: Venceslas I, titular King of England,
: Scotland and Ireland (b 24 May 1995 -> )
:
: