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: How would you transate "Verkenner"
: in a different way than scout? Is the next
: step the appointment of an Informateur?
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: This afternoon the chairman of the Second
: Chamber has appointed an information after a
: meeting with all leaders of the political
: parties. So it seems that at this stage the
: King doesn't play a role at all.
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: Sorry for my earlier misinformation, this
: new way for forming a government is still
: changing it seems IIRC the King did have
: meetings with the leaders last time but
: perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me.
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: Thank you, Johan. So will the King start
: meeting with the leaders of the parties
: (starting with the smallest, as I have
: learned here!) on Thursday? Or will he wait
: a few days until the parties have done some
: preliminary negotiations?
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: You're right. The monarch's role in the
: process has been limited and the exit polls
: suggest several options Most starting with
: the sitting PM Mark Rutte. He has to be
: careful with his demands as there is a
: theoretical option of a centre-left
: coalition that would have 77 seats in the
: 150 numbered Second Chamber.
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: Most likely the conservative Liberals VVD of
: Mark Rutte will start negotiations with the
: Christian Democrats CDA and the progressive
: Liberals D66. They would need additional
: support to become a majority coalition in
: both chambers.
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: It sounds, though, like the King does not
: have
: the same level of discretion as his
: predecessors did in earlier times such that
: we should pity him. The informateur and then
: the formateur are the ones actually
: facilitating the negotiations among the
: party leaders. His role seems more like a
: rubber stamp rather than an active
: participant in the process if I am getting
: this right. Or am I missing something?
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: No matter how this election turns out I
: don't
: envy the King his task. It could be months
: before a government is formed.
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: And don't forget external factors like the
: economic situation. In a downturn, when
: budget-cuts need to be made, differences
: between parties will become clearer and
: erupt sooner.
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: We are used to coalition governments. When
: one
: of the parties involved thinks that breaking
: away will result in electoral gains they
: might choose to do so. In the past the Dutch
: voter generally has punished political
: parties for forcing them to hold early new
: elections. Coalitions do tend to stick it
: out the full term but at times the
: differences between the parties on a
: particular subject are too big to overcome.
: The larger the number of parties in a
: coalition the more difficult it becomes to
: stay put for four years.
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: Thank you for the explanation! Is the need
: for
: so much agreement on appointments part of
: the reason why governments rarely last the
: full four years?
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: The Second Chamber can hold a vote of no
: confidence. Once that vote wins the minister
: hands in his/her resignation and is
: replaced. All others remain in place for the
: duration of the cabinet. The Second Chamber
: could also hold a vote of no confidence for
: the entire cabinet and the the entire
: cabinet has to go. Depending on the
: sentiments in the Chamber either the sitting
: parties agree to form another coalition that
: can count on support in both Chambers or we
: have new elections.
: If a minister decides to leave for whatever
: reason the replacement is agreed on by the
: coalition parties who generally hold a
: majority in the Second Chamber and the First
: Chamber (= Senate).
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: In the Dutch
: government the PM is the chair of the
: council of ministers but does not have the
: authority or legal power to hire and sack
: people.
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: So what happens if there is a need for a
: change? Are all the ministers from the
: original cabinet set in place for the
: duration of the parliament? Can the chambers
: (either or both) remove a minister?
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